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Johnie King
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 5:55 pm |
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Looks like Buddy had no Knees on this Emmons.
Last edited by Johnie King on 30 Jan 2020 7:19 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 6:17 pm
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You’re right. Do you ever wonder where these old guitars are at now?
By the way, that’s Johnny Bush on drums. |
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Mitch Ellis
From:
Collins, Mississippi USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 6:39 pm
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| Could this be the very first Emmons that he designed and Ron Lashley Sr. built? |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 29 Jan 2020 6:52 pm
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| As I recall, years ago Bobbe Seymour was offering a large sum of money for one of those early guitars that had no levers. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 30 Jan 2020 1:56 am
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My first PSG was a pull-release D10 with eight pedals and just one lever which had clearly been added later.
I can't tell you what brand as the logo had fallen off!
I suspect there was only a short period of time between the establishment of the 8-pedal setup and levers starting to appear. There was a limit to what you could add successfully to a pull-release but the push-pull opened the gate.
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 30 Jan 2020 2:20 am
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There was a ton of great music made on steel guitars with all pedals and no knees thats for sure... In my opinion of the great players of that day, it wasn't even a disadvantage.. Most were probably thrilled just to have pedals after playing non pedal steel for so long.. Most of us on this forum learned to play when knee levers had been in use for many years. I sometimes wish I had started playing without them actually... bob
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David Ball
From:
North Carolina High Country
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Posted 30 Jan 2020 4:53 am
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My favorite pedal steel to play these days is a late fifties 6 not quite standard pedals, no knees Sho Bud Permanent. Since the music I like to play best doesn't really need many of the modern changes, and since I don't mind bar slants, this guitar suits me just fine. And the tone can absolutely not be beat...
But I sure don't sound like Buddy!
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 30 Jan 2020 11:17 am Re: No knees
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| Johnie King wrote: |
| Looks like Buddy had no Knees. |
Well, Buddy's legs seem to be bending just fine...
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Carl Williams
From:
Oklahoma
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Posted 30 Jan 2020 2:20 pm
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| My hat is off to Buddy working the pedals with those “roach killin’ “ boots! Ha. I play with boots but must be a roper toe or I ‘d be hung up in the pedal rods real fast. |
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Ron Funk
From:
Ballwin, Missouri
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Posted 30 Jan 2020 9:27 pm
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Emmons Minutia Questions -
When did Emmons Guitar Company start producing strings?
Could the packages of strings on the shelves be Emmons' strings? |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 9:37 am
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I doubt if they were in the string business at this early date.
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Larry Beem
From:
Iowa, USA
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 3:42 pm
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Dont look like that seat could hold much gear either....
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 31 Jan 2020 3:56 pm
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| I dunno when they came out, but those boxes sure look like they have the old Emmons E labeled string envelopes in them. |
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Ron Funk
From:
Ballwin, Missouri
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Posted 1 Feb 2020 12:20 am
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| Exactly what I was thinking Jerry. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 1 Feb 2020 8:28 am
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I was informed that that guitar had a knee lever but it was folded up because Buddy was playing the C6th neck. 
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 2 Feb 2020 7:04 am
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Sierra guitars once had one that came in as a trade me thinks. It has balls and sustain for days. Everyone in town was really impressed but had no money. I kick myself for not seeing the value at the time.
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Paul Norman
From:
Washington, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2020 5:02 pm
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| Some of the early S10 came with 6 pedals 2 knee levers on a single E9 neck. |
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John Macy
From:
Rockport TX/Denver CO
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Posted 3 Feb 2020 7:47 pm
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I bought my ‘69 Emmons in 1972 and it had eight pedals and no knee levers...
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 Feb 2020 2:56 pm
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| Ron Funk wrote: |
When did Emmons Guitar Company start producing strings?
Could the packages of strings on the shelves be Emmons' strings? |
Maybe...I don't really know. Why do you ask? I don't think Emmons ever "produced" or manufactured strings. I think that strings that had the Emmons name on them were sold as early as the mid-to-late '60s, because I seem to remember buying them in the old Sho~Bud store on Broadway. They were likely made by some other manufacturer, like GHS, D'Addario, or Ernie Ball. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 4 Feb 2020 3:11 pm
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| John Macy wrote: |
| I bought my ‘69 Emmons in 1972 and it had eight pedals and no knee levers... |
Right. I was looking to buy a pedal steel around that time. One of the things that eliminated Emmons from my list of candidates was the lack of stock knee levers. You could have them added, but that drove the price up past their competitors.
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Mike Cass
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Posted 7 Feb 2020 10:08 pm
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The guitar Buddy is playing is Emmons number 2.
It has one knee lever, left moving right. At the time the picture was taken it was indeed folded up.
Mike Cass
Everything Emmons
Since 1987
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