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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 8:09 am |
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Has this happened to you?
I had some gummy crap on my MSA kind of like dried up jelly or something like that.
I carry a rag and try to wipe it down and keep it in reasonable shape.
Wipe with rag, no good, try a little spit on a rag. No good.
I have tried to wipe this off a few times and finally got serious today.
With mild soap (Dawn) won't take it off but seems like I can move it around on top of the finish.
Black MSA Studio Pro is a painted automotive type finish.
Tried windex, alcohol, denatured alcohol. nothing will remove this.
I have noticed it repeatedly and on several occasions but I am not sure what it is or where it comes from.
Not like I am eating jelly donuts and drooling on my shiny guitar. 
Finally against my better judgement I tried some Mothers polish. Abrasive! 
Mothers took it off but I wonder what it is and where it comes from.
Have any of you experienced anything like this?
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 9:08 am
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Go out and buy a quart of naphtha. That's the best and safest chemical to remove any kind of goo or adhesive.
Could the goo be coming from your case? When foam rubber or plastics break down, they can leave some pretty sticky residue. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 9:25 am
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I bet that is it!
Checking my case asap
Thanks
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Tim Russell
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 11:09 am
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As Donny mentioned, Naptha will do it!
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Sierra Crown D-10 |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Doug Earnest
From:
Branson, MO USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 3:56 pm
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If it is a painted finish you want to be very very careful about getting any kind of solvents near it.
I do suspect some sort of reaction to the case lining to be the culprit, especially if it is some of the "carpet type" like the outside of a lot of cases. I think the term is plasticizer migration. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 4:09 pm
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MSA cases are made by red dirt cases I think and are very good quality.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Bill Miller
From:
Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 5:17 pm
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It's a good idea to bear in mind that naptha is right up there with nitro glycerin in terms of volatility. I once saw a guy try to use it to light a fire in a wood stove. The shutters bounced off the ceiling, the kindling wood blew across the floor and he lost his eyebrows and the hair on his arms. Just sayin'
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Richard Stoops
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 22 Apr 2019 12:39 am guitar finish
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I've used WD-40 to remove adhesives such as those that are left after removing stickers, etc. I have never had a problem of it damaging any surfaces.
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Emmons and Rittenberry Steel guitars plus assorted 6 string guitars |
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Malcolm McMaster
From:
Beith Ayrshire Scotland
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Posted 23 Apr 2019 3:19 am
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Ken, speak to Kyle at MSA, he is the paint expert .
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MSA Millenium SD10, GK MB200, Sica 12inch cab, Joyo American Sound Pedal/ Jay Ganz Straight Ahead amp, Telonics 15inch in Peavey cab, Digitech RP150, Peterson tuner.Hilton volume pedal.Scott Dixon seat and guitar flight case. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2019 3:54 am
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Kyle from MSA told me to treat it as any automotive type finish.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2019 2:04 pm
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Errr - Nitroglycerin and naphtha are very different, and naphtha is not explosive. It is the mildest petroleum-based solvent available - which is why it's used as lighter fluid not charcoal lighter) - Ronson lighter fluid is naphtha with a little colorant and deodorizer.
It's the safest ting to use on a guitar, as it doesn't affect normal finishes or any plastics. Unless the thing is painted with conventional "spray paint" it'll take off the gunk and leave nothing.
WD-40 is known as a "dirty" solvent - a low-grade, partially refined liquid designed as a "Water Dispersant" - NOT a cleaner (Water Dispersant - 40th formula tested). It will leave a greasy film on the surface. It normally doesn't "damage" surfaces, but the film it leaves collects dust and dirt.
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No chops, but great tone
1930's/40's Rickenbacher/Rickenbacker 6&8 string lap steels
1921 Weissenborn Style 2; Hilo&Schireson hollownecks
Appalachian, Regal & Dobro squarenecks
1959 Fender 400 9+2 B6;1960's Fender 800 3+3+2; 1948 Fender Dual-8 Professional |
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Mitch Ellis
From:
Collins, Mississippi USA
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Posted 23 Apr 2019 9:57 pm
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| Jim Sliff wrote: |
| and naphtha is not explosive. It is the mildest petroleum-based solvent available - which is why it's used as lighter fluid not charcoal lighter) . |
If it's not explosive, how can it be used as lighter fluid to create fire? When I strike my Zippo, the flame is there the instant the flint sparks. That means it's explosive doesn't it?
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 24 Apr 2019 7:11 am
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Jerry Lee Lewis once sprayed down a piano with lighter fluid and lit it.
It didn't explode but it sure lit up! 
Erv |
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Brian Hollands
From:
Geneva, FL USA
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Posted 24 Apr 2019 7:56 am
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Maybe thats where Hendrix got the idea...
And the word is Flamable
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'81 Sho-bud LDG, 2 EMCI's |
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Charles Kurck
From:
Living in Arkansas but Heaven is home
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2019 7:36 am
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How many of you know what 3M stands for?
Erv |
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Charlie Hansen
From:
Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 29 Apr 2019 8:01 am
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Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing. Not bad for a Canadian EH.
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I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 29 Apr 2019 8:03 am
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Give that man a roll of Scotch tape!!
They started out making sand paper in Northern MN.
Erv |
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