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jerry harkins
From:
kingsland tx
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Posted 12 Jul 2005 4:38 pm |
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Here's my problem,
I have Grover keys on my current guitar.
Two click when I turn them and some seem to drag or bind up. Their not smooth like they should be. these are on a 2004 steel guitar.
Are there better keys out there or has the Quality of Grover slipped. The shafts have slack in them, not tight. it's almost like there's bushings missing or somthing.
Should I change them to another kind?
Thanks for your help , Jerry. |
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Charles Dempsey
From:
Shongaloo, LA
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Posted 12 Jul 2005 6:00 pm
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If this is a 2004 guitar I'd be talking to the manufacturer. It's hard to see how you could abuse tuners, so they ought to still be under warranty.
Grover tuners used to be pretty good back in the '70s. I haven't heard much from them lately.
Tuners are one of my pet peeves. Why make a good guitar and put crappy tuners on it? I dunno.
If the warranty thing doesn't work then I recommend the Schaller M6 or mini M6. Look at their website HERE. Some of their tuners are direct Grover replacements. Good German engineering throughout. Nickel, black, gold, and about $50.00 for a set of six, but cheaper in quantity. Check Stew Mac for prices. Stew Mac has design drawings on their tuner pages.
Charlie
[This message was edited by Charles Dempsey on 12 July 2005 at 07:01 PM.] |
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Russ Little
From:
Hosston,Louisiana, USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2005 6:16 pm
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Jerry,
Have you taken them off and really inspected them.
I usuall find problems with tuners is due to
poor assembly. Lose screws ect.May be easy to
fix the ones you have. Of cource pulling them on a new guitar urks ya, but s __ t
happens
Russ |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 12 Jul 2005 10:51 pm
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Well there's about 10 different kind of Grover Tuners; so depends on which ones you have. I like the new 18:1 Romatic Grover tuners as they are the finest touch; no slip; no drag; exact tuner that is new; that I've laid me hands on....but wheather they fit on your particular steel that's another reason there are so many different tuner styles made from each company.
Oh and Hi Jerry; long time no see pal.
Ricky |
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jerry harkins
From:
kingsland tx
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 7:36 pm
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Thanks for the info Guys,
Didn't know those little buggers cost that much,33.00-55.00 ea.
I better talk to the manufacturer about this.
Ricky,good to here from you.
I only live an hr from you, we need to get together an talk Steel.
Do you get your tuners in Austin or on line?
Thanks Jerry. |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 7:45 pm
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"Didn't know those little buggers cost that much,33.00-55.00 ea."
You're reading something wrong. I'm looking at the Stewmac catalog and Grover Rotomatics 18:1 auto-locking tuners are $42.65 for a set of 6...not EACH. |
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jerry harkins
From:
kingsland tx
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 7:57 pm
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Thanks Jim,
That makes me feel alot better, must have been per set, they didn't say.
Where's the best place to get em?
Thanks Jerry. |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 8:15 pm
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I usually order from Stewart MacDonald - www.stewmac.com
They have a great catalog if you're into building/repairs. Once you order from them you'll start getting it for free.
Edited to add - but I agree with the above post. On a 2004 guitar those should NOT be slipping. I'd contact your guitar manufacturer - they should be able to get replacements from Grover. They SHOULD last 15-20 years.[This message was edited by Jim Sliff on 13 July 2005 at 09:17 PM.] |
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jerry harkins
From:
kingsland tx
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 8:23 pm
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Thanks Jim,
Jerry. |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 13 Jul 2005 8:40 pm
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Hey Jerry; I haven't actually obtained any for myself; these were for Sho-bud's that I've worked on and the owners buy them and have them sent here as part of my task.
They have bought them from Al Brisco and I believe Duane Marrs has them also...
Ricky |
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jerry harkins
From:
kingsland tx
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Posted 15 Jul 2005 5:28 pm
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Anyone else having tuner problems on thier Steel?
Jerry. |
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Wayne Franco
From:
silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 15 Jul 2005 7:25 pm
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| As a matter of fact I don't like the tuners on my 93 Legrand. Seems like the head stock is too thick for the inside nut that holds the tuner to get a good grip before it strips the threads. I've tried putting teflon tape around the threads to take up some of the slop but it doesn't work very well. I have about 3 like that. One of these days I'm going to have to replace them. Sounds like Steward-Mac is a good place to look. I just wonder how I would make sure the inside nut is long enough before I buy a set. [This message was edited by W Franco on 15 July 2005 at 08:26 PM.] |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 15 Jul 2005 10:07 pm
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W Franco - There have been several complaints over the years about Emmons and Grover tuners. I had the same problem with my Mullen. I ended up removing the washers and just tightening the nut down directly to the keyhead.
Lee |
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