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Bill Ford


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Post  Posted 16 Apr 2015 3:13 am    
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I have an S12 5+5 with standard Franklin on 0 pedal,Emmons ABC, Es on lk, all pretty standard. Need suggestions for 5th pedal, I play Gospel/contemporary at my Church.

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b0b


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Post  Posted 16 Apr 2015 8:31 am    
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I'd take the half-stop off of the 2nd string lower to get a firm D, and then lower strings 2, 9 and 12 to C# on that pedal. But that's just me.
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Jerry Hayes


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Post  Posted 16 Apr 2015 3:12 pm    
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I'd raise the 5th and 6th strings a whole tone each (B to C#, G# to A#)... It's a standard change for the Uni tuning and very useful both when your E's are untouched or when they're lowered to D#.. It permits you to play instrumentals such as "Raisin' the Dickens", etc)... I have it on my guitar on pedal 4 and use it all the time... I don't use the standard C pedal as I have the E to F# change on my pedal 8 (used with the right foot) for Mooney things..............JH in Va.
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Bill Ford


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Post  Posted 16 Apr 2015 4:00 pm    
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Forgot to mention, tuned ext E9...sorry.
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Lane Gray


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Post  Posted 16 Apr 2015 5:48 pm    
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I'd put Franklin pedal on P5, and raise 1&2 on 0 (if you do that with the knee that lowers 6,I'd just raise 1 to G there, along with the 6 lower).
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Brint Hannay

 

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Post  Posted 16 Apr 2015 7:35 pm    
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I'd move the Franklin to P5 and raise 6 to A# on P1. Playing that P1 together with the A pedal gives you the 6 & 5 combination Jerry referred to but splits the changes, which has some uses.
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Jay Riddle

 

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Post  Posted 17 Apr 2015 6:32 am     5th Pedal
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I have a 5+4 MSA D10 and I lower the B strings to Bb on pedal 5. Bizarre, but functional and working nonetheless. Lol! It'll give you a C6th feel when getting the split in combination with the A pedal using both feet. J
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 17 Apr 2015 6:53 am    
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Brint Hannay wrote:
,,, raise 6 to A# on P1. Playing that P1 together with the A pedal gives you the 6 & 5 combination Jerry referred to but splits the changes, which has some uses.


After 20 years, my "P0" might be getting some traction. Maybe I should call it the Bovine pedal.
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Bill Ford


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Post  Posted 17 Apr 2015 1:23 pm    
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Bovine pedal, Hmmmmmm Just put it on p0, think I may like it. Not a lot of trouble to change back if it doesn't work for me.

Thanks, BF

Jay, I had an S12 MSA with the B lower on p0, worked real well for me, one of those "I let it get away guitars".
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Jay Riddle

 

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Post  Posted 17 Apr 2015 2:41 pm     Ikr
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I know the feeling! I let a Sho-Bud Lloyd Green go a few years ago and could kick myself for it!! Lol!! Sad
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Chris Reesor

 

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Post  Posted 17 Apr 2015 3:52 pm    
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Check out Cowboy Eddie Long's U12 copedent on the BMI site. The Bovine pedal is featured quite prominently at P0.

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Jay Fagerlie


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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2015 7:24 am    
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b0b wrote:
I'd take the half-stop off of the 2nd string lower to get a firm D, and then lower strings 2, 9 and 12 to C# on that pedal. But that's just me.



b0b- can you post a sound example of this change?

thanks!

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b0b


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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2015 2:21 pm    
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There's nothing unusual about it, Jay. Most people lower their 2nd and 9th strings to C# on a knee lever. I do it on pedal 0.

As for the 12th string lower, I no longer have a 12 string. When I did, I found the 12th string lower to be very useful for a C6th-ish "boo-wah" effect, and also as the root tone when the F lever was engaged.

I agree with those who would move the Franklin changes to the inside position. I'd put these C# changes in the pedal 0 position for easy use with the F lever.
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Jay Riddle

 

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Post  Posted 22 Apr 2015 3:41 pm    
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Thanks Bob, I thought I was an oddball for a bit there...Lol!
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 23 Apr 2015 6:27 pm    
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On my 12 string guitar I tune my 2nd and 9th strings to C#... My LKR raises them both to D and my LKL raises the 2nd string to D# and lowers the 10th string B to Bb (A#).....JH in Va.
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Carey Lainhart

 

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Post  Posted 4 May 2015 7:46 am    
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Any chance one of you guys with the A# (Bovine) change can post some examples of how you use it? If it's standard on the Universal, I assume it's the C6 7th pedal change, but I'm pretty ignorant of the C6 changes and how they're used. Do you use it the same way as it's used on the C6, or something different altogether? - thanks a bunch.
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Jay Riddle

 

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Post  Posted 10 May 2015 10:52 am    
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Jay Riddle wrote:
Thanks Bob, I thought I was an oddball for a bit there...Lol!

Of course the oddball for me goes without saying. Wink Lol!
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