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Topic: Teleonics 409 pickup |
Larry Behm
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Posted 3 Mar 2015 2:18 pm |
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Just heard a 409 in Zum over at Lynn Stafford's, oh my: clean top to bottom, great string separation, not edgey on top, the real deal. JD and Frank Carter worked with Dave on this pickup, sounds great.
Dual adjustable pole pieces, humbucker, quiet.
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'70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
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Ron Whitworth
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Yuma,Ariz.USA Yeah they say it's a DRY heat !!
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Posted 3 Mar 2015 3:37 pm
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Uh-huh 
Folks are finding out about these great Telonics products !!!
Thanks for your opinion Larry.
Ron
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It's not what you play through, it's what you play through it.
They say that tone is all in the fingers...I say it is all in your head 
Some of the best pieces of life are the little pieces all added up..Ron
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Paddy Long
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Posted 4 Mar 2015 5:10 pm
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Yes Larry I have had 409's on one of my Zum Hybrids for a while now and they are just the Bee's knees
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08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
Telonics, Peterson, Steelers Choice, Benado, Lexicon, Red Dirt Cases.
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Dave Bertoncini
From:
Sun City West, Arizona USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2015 6:22 pm
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 5 Mar 2015 3:35 pm
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It just ordered a set for my PP, stand by.
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'70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
Phone: 971-219-8533 |
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Rollin Schmidt
From:
Kansas, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2015 5:33 pm telonics 409 pickup
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| I can't find where to buy these, do they go by a new number? |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 5 Mar 2015 10:03 pm
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call Sofie at Telonics
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'70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
Phone: 971-219-8533 |
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 3:08 pm 409s
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| I had them on my Millenium, they were fantastic. I may get a pair for my Zum. Great pickups. |
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 3:38 pm Re: 409s
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| Steve Spitz wrote: |
| I had them on my Millenium, they were fantastic. I may get a pair for my Zum. Great pickups. |
Go for it, my friend! You won't be sorry. I just ordered another pair for my Hybrid a few days ago after hearing what they sounded like on my non-Hybrid when Larry was over here.
This guitar is now a tonal bulldozer!
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Best regards,
Lynn Stafford
STEEL GUITAR WEST
http://www.steelguitarwest.com
Steel Guitar Technician (Restoration, Set-up, Service and Repair work)
Previous Emmons Authorized Dealer & Service Technician (original factory is now closed)
ZumSteel Authorized Service Technician
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George Macdonald
From:
Vancouver Island BC Canada
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 3:52 pm Telonics
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| I've had the 12 string version, #427, in my Carter for about a year. After having tried most of the other pickups over the years, this one is staying in. |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 7:48 pm
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These pickups made this Zum sound more like a PP than some PP's do.
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'70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
Phone: 971-219-8533 |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2015 2:37 pm
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| What is the process to dial in the individual pole pieces? |
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Tucker Jackson
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2015 2:56 pm
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| What is the process to dial in the individual pole pieces? |
I have one of Bob Hoffnar's Tonealigner pickups -- an excellent pickup that also has two adustable pole pieces per string. The procecure is to first balance the volume of each string in relation to the others. The pole pieces should start out at the same distance from the string. Then, to increase or decrease volume, both pole pieces on a given string are raised or lowered the exact same number of 'turns of the screw.' You just find the sweet spot for each string so that it is similar volume to the others.
Once the each string is the right volume, if you want, you can EQ each one.
For example, to make the 3rd string fatter, you raise the pole piece nearest the neck and lower the pole piece nearest the changer. It's important to lower the one pole the same amount as you raised the other. By adjusting each screw by the same number of turns -- one is screwed in and the other out -- the overall volume should remain the same on that string... and you don't want to change that because you already set it up in step 1 above.
By doing this EQ adjustment, you can fatten up the wispy treble strings and also get some growl on the lower strings by thinning them out a little. It's a really great feature to have in a pickup! |
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Jim Cooley
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The 'Ville, Texas, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2015 5:01 pm
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| Larry, Lynn, anybody...have you compared the Telonics 409 to the Tonealigner? I've wondered if there is a significant difference between the two. They appear to be designed on the same principle with the same fine tuning technique. Maybe that should be a different thread, though. |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 11 Mar 2015 5:56 pm
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I just put a set of 409's in and took a set of Tonealigners out. TO ME they sounded the same a little more volume on the 409's but both are quiet and clean.
I was not looking for a change in sound, just needed to replace TA so went with the 409 as I have heard them in other guitars and knew what I was going to get.
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'70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
Phone: 971-219-8533 |
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Steve Spitz
From:
New Orleans, LA, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2015 5:36 pm Any trouble passing the wire ?
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Dave Beatty at Teleonics suggested the hole in the Zum body may need to be enlarged to accommodate the lead from the teleonics pickup, which is thicker. Did anyone need to do so ?
Larry , Lynn, Paddy, anyone ?
Thanks in advance,
Steve Spitz |
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Lynn Stafford
From:
Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 7:40 am Lead Wire Hole
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Hi Steve,
I had no trouble at all passing the lead for the Telonics pickups through the holes in my ZumSteel. In fact there was very ample clearance and Bruce had even chamfered the hole openings! Attention to detail like that speaks volumes about overall build quality...
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Best regards,
Lynn Stafford
STEEL GUITAR WEST
http://www.steelguitarwest.com
Steel Guitar Technician (Restoration, Set-up, Service and Repair work)
Previous Emmons Authorized Dealer & Service Technician (original factory is now closed)
ZumSteel Authorized Service Technician
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 25 Mar 2015 5:54 pm
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Steve I had no issues installing the 409's on my Zum Hyrbid - they went in no problem
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14'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
08'Zumsteel Hybrid D10 9+9
94' Franklin Stereo D10 9+8
Telonics, Peterson, Steelers Choice, Benado, Lexicon, Red Dirt Cases. |
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