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Karen Sarkisian
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Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 5:41 am |
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well, in my infinite wisdom I decided to take apart my new (to me) push pull Emmons that I bought from Bobby Reed. I am just curious about how it all works and since I have my fatback to use as an example of how to put things back together I figured I'd take the plunge down the rabbit hole. Things are going fairly smoothly so far, I have disassembled a lot of it underneath and cleaned it up a bit, but in putting it back together I have not been able to get the return springs to expand as much as they are expanded on my fatback guitar. Is there a secret to how to pull them to the right tension ? I have needle-nose pliers and an allen wrench for the collar, but maybe I am just not strong enough to really pull them tight. That being said, how tight do they really need to be ?
I hope this makes sense. thanks !
also i tried to remove the changer but couldn't figure out how to do it so I just went in there with Q-tips and cleaned it up. over-all the guitar is pretty clean so I am hoping that changer removal is not necessary.
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 6:27 am
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| Besides the obvious screws necessary to remove to get the changer out- there are 2 more that are under the lip on the end plate that need to come out. I use an allen wrench w a handle on it to set the tension on the return springs by inserting it in the last loop of the spring and pulling it toward the L bracket stop. |
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Doug Palmer
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Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 6:32 am Positive Return Springs
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Karen, I usually pull them until the drop finger hits the body of the guitar and then about 1/4" further. Do this with the proper string guages on. Probably no need to remove the changer unless it is bound up. I'd just oil it real good with the strings off. 3 in One will work. Good luck.
Doug
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Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 6:33 am
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thanks Jim. how much tension needs to be on these springs ?
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Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 6:35 am
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so it sounds like having strings on before re-aseembling all the push-pull rods is the way to go ?
Been cleaning with bicycle degreaser. works like a charm.
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 7:01 am
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| Just enough tension for the lower fingers to snap back nicely when released- kinda hard to describe but not enough tension will make the guitar feel mushy and too much will make the lowers too stiff. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 8:17 am
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| bravo for going the distance to tinker with your equipment and gain valuable knowledge and a more intimate connection to your instrument! |
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Jerry Fessenden
From:
Vermont, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 8:20 am springs
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| Frankie Caruso is playing in Watertown , Ma tomorrow , I'll be there ...It's @ the VFW ...295 Arsenal St . We can take a gander . JF |
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Karen Sarkisian
From:
Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 14 Sep 2013 11:06 am
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cool Jerry thanks for the info. i know Frank and live about a mile from the VFW should I bring the push pull ? could you help me with it ?
Karen
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