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Topic: 8 string lap steel tuning question |
Joe Lipman
From: Nashville TN
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Posted 23 Sep 2006 2:24 am
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I'm in the process of having a lap steel built and need a recommendation for tuning.
The steel will be 24.25 scale. I plan on playing western swing (aka Bob Wills/Asleep at the Wheel) and Travis/Atkins style alternating bass so I need the low bass notes.
Any recomendations on the tuning and string guages for the tuning?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Joe
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Andy Sandoval
From: Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2006 3:32 am
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Joe, I think you might like A6. It's got the same intervals as C6 but has a lower mellower sound. Some folks don't care for it but a lot of Western Swing sound awesome on it.
1.E .014
2.C# .017
3.A .022
4.F# .024
5.E .030
6.C# .034
7.A .042
8.F# .046
For 6 string just omit the high and the low string.[This message was edited by Andy Sandoval on 23 September 2006 at 04:33 AM.] |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2006 7:09 am
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Andy,
I don't think you'd want to eliminate the
high, E string. [This message was edited by Erv Niehaus on 23 September 2006 at 08:10 AM.] |
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Mark Eaton
From: Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 23 Sep 2006 8:24 am
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So Erv, why would that be?
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Steinar Gregertsen
From: Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Posted 23 Sep 2006 9:05 am
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Isn't that high E - the fifth of the scale - some of the 'signature' of the A6th tuning?
At least that's how I think of the three most common '6th' tunings - C6 has the 3rd on top, E6 has the root on top, and A6 has the 5th on top. All "E"s by the way...
Steinar
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Pete Blakeslee
From: Lincoln, NE
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Posted 23 Sep 2006 9:23 am
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My situation is essentially the same. I tune Bb, C, E, G, A, C, E, D - low to high.
The D helps with single string work and the Travis picking. You can raise the low C to D and get that 13th sound, an easy retune, because it is an octave lower than the 1st string.
I don't like to play much above fret 12 - not my favorite sound on steel. So in deciding whether to use an A, C, or E tuning, I looked at the keys the band's vocalist sang in, and chose the tuning that kept most of the playing in the lower register. It turned out to be C.
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Stephan Miller
From: Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 23 Sep 2006 9:44 am
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Joe, I agree that A6 is worth your time to check out. Herb Remington used it all the time with Bob Wills. There are a couple of easily-retuned variations-- 1)for A13, tune the 8th string F# a half step up to get G-A-C#-E-F#-A-C#-E for more blues/jazz flavor, or 2) tune the 8th string down to E to get your alternating 1-5 in the bass for Travis picking.
I have a 6-string in A6 with the 1st string E. Eliminating that high 5th would take away too much of what A6 has to offer, IMO.
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Roger Shackelton
From: MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 29 Sep 2006 4:17 pm
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HELLO JOE,
Here's the C-6th tuning if you want to give it a try.??
C-6th
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1 E .014
2 C .017
3 A .020p
4 G .024w
5 E .030
6 C .036
7 A .042
8 F .054
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