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Topic: whats a sho bud pro 11 worth |
Jeff Hogsten
From: Flatwoods Ky USA
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 1:11 pm
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what is a sho bud pro 11 made about 78 or in that neighborhood worth it is in great mechanical shape, plays and sounds great it is black and shows some wear on the cabinet a few bad bar nicks but not really bad it has had the fretboards changed and has bill lawerence pickups it is a eight and four |
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 4:11 pm
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Jeff,
Is it the later Super Pro style, or the older two-hole puller design? _________________ Jackson Steel Guitars
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Neil Lang
From: Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 4:54 pm
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Condition: Poor- Low $800 Hi $1000
Fair- Low $1000 Hi $1250
Good- Low $1300 Hi $1600
Very Good- Low $1600 Hi $1950
Excellent- Low $1950 Hi $2500+?
Worth=????????? What ever you can get????
These prices I arrived at by watching hundreds of Buds sold and purchased here, e-bay, pawn shops, for sale ads and many music stores etc.
Now, some sell hi, some sell low, bottom line is... if someone is in the market and they want it, they will buy it. We are talking about "worth" prices here. And also remember: its just my opinion, everybodys got one......like you know what!
Neil _________________ Sho-Bud Steel Guitars, 3 Super Pro's, 1 Super Pro II (Rose) & 1 Finger Tip
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David Doggett
From: Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 7:13 pm
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A '78 would be in the SuperPro era - square front, good modern mechanical design, but poor quality metal in many of the parts. The parts may be okay if there hasn't been a lot of wear. |
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Al Szwarc
From: Metuchen, New Jersey, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Jun 2007 7:25 pm Bud Pro II worth?
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I agree with Neil Lang's thinking. Pretty good on pricing per condition. |
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Neil Lang
From: Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 3:25 am
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Thanks Al...........We know: one mans GARBAGE is another mans GOLD!
Neil(BUD NUTS)Lang _________________ Sho-Bud Steel Guitars, 3 Super Pro's, 1 Super Pro II (Rose) & 1 Finger Tip
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 4:53 am
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I was wondering about the undercarriage because "around '78" could mean '77 and there was a chance that the two-hole puller mechanism could have been still underneath at that point, just before they switched. A shot of the underside would clear everything up. David's probably right, though, especially taken into account that the newer design is more often seen. _________________ Jackson Steel Guitars
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Neil Lang
From: Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 6:02 am
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Just MY thoughts on newer & older mechanics. I have played them all and owned them all. Again, this does NOT make me an authority, just my opinion.
I personally prefer the newest mechanics in Sho-Buds.
The action is much smoother, less noisey, less "sloppy" and more accurate in general, than all the older ones. YES the metal is not the best in many parts, but to me that does not outweigh the playing of the instrument. It also will make a difference the way you "play" your knee levers etc. If you SLAM them and are rough the way you play, you will have MORE problems with the newer metals used. I have purchased Buds with broken parts and replaced them with the original version. I have never had a part break on me with any of my newer version buds.
I presently own 4 guitars of this newer style mechanics. I rotate these on gigs so yes, they don't see as much ACTION as they would get if I had just one. To me, as far as "worth" goes, a pro II is a pro II, with the only preference being in the mechanics and part materials. And condition.
Thanks,
Neil _________________ Sho-Bud Steel Guitars, 3 Super Pro's, 1 Super Pro II (Rose) & 1 Finger Tip
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 6:33 am
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Neil, you are correct in saying that the price would be about the same on both squarefront Pro II's. Some would rather the triple raise which is not available on the older models. However, the earlier round front Pro II with the barrels behind two-hole pullers is worth the most to Sho~Bud collectors and affecianados. And to me personally, I'd pay more for a 'Bud with the swivel system. I have no use for the triple raise on my copedent, and never will. So I don't miss that option. It's all personal preference.
I had a Pro 1 with pot metal parts, and while I had no problems with breakage, I did notice a difference in pedal and lever action in comparison to my present Pro I with two-hole pullers. The one I have now plays smoother, with less slack and noise. I didn't like the rod hook/clip setup as much as the swivels. The sweep seems more natural to me with the swivels. I could be dreaming, but it feels that way when I use the pedals and knees. Also, with the swivel system I do not have to unscrew the nylon tuner when making copedent changes and bellcrank adjustments, because there is no hook on the bell crank end of the rod. Like I said, to each their own. In fact, I know a lot of 'Bud owners who'd never go near a 'Bud that didn't have the triple-raise Super Pro system. To me, they're all beautiful, no matter the era. _________________ Jackson Steel Guitars
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Neil Lang
From: Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 7 Jun 2007 10:03 am
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Chris,
You got it right on........LOVE ALL THOSE BUDS!!!
Like you said......personal preference. I still have my old original fingertip.........break the "C" hooks on that one once in a while, but have not played it for a couple of years now. Also, I prefer the narrow pedals.
Also, much shorter pedal stroke for me on the newer.
Keep "pampering" those Buds!
Neil _________________ Sho-Bud Steel Guitars, 3 Super Pro's, 1 Super Pro II (Rose) & 1 Finger Tip
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William Fraser
From: New York, USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2007 1:38 am Sho-Bud
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Hey folks, those numbers sound OK & although the later models are not as desirable as a round front Pro-II, having had both ,they all have pro's & cons.I wouldn't shy away from a late model, they tune up & play just fine & I liked the tone on my 81 pro-I better than my 73 Pro-II at first. Billy Lee Fraser ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) _________________ Billy Lee ,Pro-II,, Session 400,Session 500 , Supro , National, SpeedDemons,& too many Archtops & Stratotones.Lots of vintage parts for Kay ! etc. |
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Al Marcus
From: Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 9 Jun 2007 8:18 pm
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I agree with Chris.
I have had 2 professionals D10 with barrells, a superpro D10 with triple raise, a S10 barrells , and now have a beautiful Birdseye Pro 1 ,2 holer but still barrells, best of both worlds.For ones who dont know, withthe barrells, you can have triple raises if you need them...al. .. _________________ Michigan (MSGC)Christmas Dinner and Jam on my 80th Birthday.
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 9 Jun 2007 9:23 pm
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Al! You got me there..........I totally forgot about the infinite raise/lower available on the barrels.
I've heard your Pro 1, and it is truly a special instrument. What a tone. _________________ Jackson Steel Guitars
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Al Marcus
From: Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 10 Jun 2007 8:58 am
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Chris-Thanks, but I have had other guitars with a good tone, but this Pro 1 seems to be special and I do feel comfortable playing it. And I do like the Beautiful Wood Lacquer Birdseye of this Guitar, and the way it plays, so smooth and effortlessly .al.![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ Michigan (MSGC)Christmas Dinner and Jam on my 80th Birthday.
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Lonny Servin
From: Oregon, WI, USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2007 7:55 pm
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it is worth what ever someone is willing to pay. |
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