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Topic: Maybe its my Amp(s) |
Joe Drivdahl
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Montana, USA
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Posted 1 May 2007 11:37 am |
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I am currently using a Nashville 400 no mod and a Nashville 1000, but like I said, I am not real happy with my sound.
I am wondering if these new space-age guitars like my GFI sound better through the new Nashville 112s better than through my old powerhouses?
Any ideas or opinions on the 112s?
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 1 May 2007 1:23 pm
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The 112 is a nice little amp, but I don't think it'll do anything a 1000 won't. I suspect you just haven't found the right settings, something you like, and would recommend you find someone else to play your rig while you just listen. I know Buddy Charleton was quite happy with a GFI, and I also think he's used a Peavey 1000 amp.
You've got good equipment, you just have to learn to get more out of it, either by your technique or by how you have it set. |
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Sonny Priddy
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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 1 May 2007 2:13 pm amp
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| Never Could Get The Sound Out Of The 1000 I Had That I Can Out Of My Nashville 112. I Play A GFI & A MAGNUM. SONNY. |
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Chris LeDrew
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Canada
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Posted 1 May 2007 4:41 pm
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I highly recommend an original 70's Session 400 for a warm and smooth-sounding tone. It is a totally different beast sonically than the Nashville series. I fought my Nashville 112 until I realized it wasn't my problem, and sold it. There was always something honky in the upper mid-range I could never dial out, almost "phlemy". I went back to the Session...........I find the shift on that amp much better at scooping out those nasal frequencies. This is only my experience......hundreds are enjoying the 112, and you may as well. But I don't think you'll get a hugely different sound out of it than what the other Nashville amps are giving you now.
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 1 May 2007 4:47 pm Nashvilles
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You may be right, Chris. I maybe should look into another type of amp. The sound you call "nasal frequencies" is exactly what I mean. I've got my mids turned way down to 9:00. If I go any higher then it gets that way.
Maybe an Evans would be a good choice. |
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 1 May 2007 4:58 pm
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I heard the Steel King has a warm sound that's similar to the Session 400, and that it's easy to dial in a good tone. I haven't tried one myself, but have friends that swear by them. It may be a cheaper option than an Evans.
I've heard a lot of guys using the Nashville series and getting great tone, so I think it's personal preference combined with playing style.
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 1 May 2007 5:06 pm Steel King
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Chris,
I've heard of the Steel King, but I haven't really investigated them. I was thinking Fender built another steel amp too, but I can't remember the name.
Joe |
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Posted 1 May 2007 6:26 pm
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There was a recent all tube Fender Twin Custom 15 and the 90's all tube Vibrasonic amp. Great sounding tubes amps for sure.
If you have me mod that N-400 I think you would be real happy with it! I could not ever get a tone I liked out a N-400 amp, especially with my Tele. To much honky mids, no real presence or warmth. Tons of power and a super well built amp, though. Actually one of the best built transistor amps I can recall in years. A true road warrior!!
Like above, I preferred the Session 400 to all the Peavey Steel amps until I modded my first N-400. I can use it for steel and Tele both now. You can read a lot of reviews about this mod on the Forum. It really works!
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 1 May 2007 6:32 pm The Mod
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Hey Ken,
What is this Mod? I've heard about it before, but don't know what all it entails. What is added or modified?
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Ken Fox
From:
Nashville GA USA
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 2 May 2007 3:35 am
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Do you use a Hilton Vol. pedal??
It seems to clean up the sound.
Ken
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Joe Drivdahl
From:
Montana, USA
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Posted 2 May 2007 4:55 am Hilton
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Yes I do have a Hilton. Sweet pedal, alright.
Its not that I have a bad sound, its just thin compared to my brother's Sho-Bud. I don't have the "body" he does even though we both play through Nashville 400s. I am lacking that depth of tone quality. Its not as crisp and clear as what I'm hearing on the Internet either.
I'd think its just me because I never could adjust an amp correctly, but I've set my amp identical to his and I've even swapped amps. Same thing. Its proabably just the difference between an '85 Sho-Bud and newer guitar?
Joe
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Chris LeDrew
From:
Canada
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Posted 2 May 2007 6:36 am
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Yes, there will be a sonic difference between a Sho~Bud and a GFI. If you like your brother's tone, maybe you are a Sho~Bud man as well. Get one! Get one! Ha-ha.....
Ironically, I've seen some prominent Sho~Bud players turn to GFI when it was time to go modern, so go figure. I played a few GFI's and they sound good, but nothing like a Sho~Bud.
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 2 May 2007 12:25 pm
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| . . . some prominent Sho~Bud players turn to GFI when it was time to go modern, . . . . I played a few GFI's and they sound good, but nothing like a Sho~Bud. |
Of course! How does Lexus sound against Duesenberg!
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Ernie Pollock
From:
Mt Savage, Md USA
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Posted 3 May 2007 4:09 am Humm?
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I have used a standard Nashville 400, but the ones with the 'mods' installed are much better, I happen to have one that John LeMay did for me, it is a super sounding amp. I have tried several of the 1000's and could never get 'my sound' out of one of those. Never had the chance to try the 112's but probably could not hold up against a 400 with mods, just gotta have that 15" speaker. I also have an Evans SE-150 and a Fender Steel King also super amps!!
Ernie
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 3 May 2007 5:08 am
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| its just thin compared to my brother's Sho-Bud. I don't have the "body" he does even though we both play through Nashville 400s. I am lacking that depth of tone quality. |
Having a GFI after a couple Sho-buds, I found the opposite to be true regarding tone - the GFI sounds fat and round while the Sho-buds had too much top-end nasal tone.
If you've swapped amps and get the same thing, I'd start looking at setup - strings, pickup, pickup height...those all can have a significant effect on tone. After that, if you still can't get the sound you want then maybe you just hear something in the GFI's tone that doesn't work for you. OTOH, it does NOT sound like an amp problem at all - an non-modeling amp will not change the basic tonal framework of a guitar.
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 4 May 2007 8:18 am
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I know it's probably been said before, but you simply can't compare the sound of a guitar "live" with something you're hearing over the internet. People usually have their computer speakers beamed right at them, while a "live" amp sound is seldom in front of you, and beamed right at you while you're playing. Sounds coming from behind are vastly different than sounds coming from in front of you.
Also, you have to take into account that, quite often, even identical guitars have different sounds to some people. Differences in wood density and assembly technique (like how hard it's screwed together) can make significant differences. Straight guitar players might try out 50 identical guitars before they find the one that "sounds right".
If you're a stickler for a certain sound, shop for "sounds", and not just brand names. |
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Mickey Adams
From:
Bandera Texas
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Posted 4 May 2007 11:47 am Pickups
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Have you considered maybe changing to a different pickup?
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Marlin Smoot
From:
Kansas
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Posted 5 May 2007 12:00 am
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If you don't have one... try the Steel Guitar Black Box with your solid state amps.
It does nice things for tone. Use good quality guitar cords too.
Something as simple as strings can have impact too or even pick attact. Start with the least expensive items first then move up as you try different things to alter your tone to your liking.
When you change something, give it some time. Work with that change for a while before you make a final decision.
Good luck in your quest for tone... |
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Billy Carr
From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 5 May 2007 1:52 pm 112
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| I run my mids on about 7:00 on my 112. Lows at about 5:00 and highs around 11:00. Shift at 800 also. 112 sounds fine for small places but my main amp is a FSK with a 1501BW speaker for the serious gigs. |
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