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Topic: Oldsters + Youngsters playin' together ? |
CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 22 Aug 2002 8:30 am |
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How many of you Older Kats play with Young Kats in your band ?
Like combining Youthfull Energy and Elders KnowHow ?
Sharing the Wealth ? |
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Chris Forbes
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Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2002 8:57 am
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| when I was seventeen I played fiddle in a bluegrass band, the next youngest guy was forty six. Does that count? |
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Gary Lee Gimble
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Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 22 Aug 2002 10:13 am
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Yes, Chris it does count. I was only 12 years old and not only did I feel a little out of place being the junior member (lead guitar player) of a soul band, I had to temporally change my name from Gary Lee to Asbacus Johnston. And yes, I was the only honky in the band and that was, and is still OK with me. I'm just full of soul, axe me!
Gary Lee.........always bumpin with dis an dat |
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Chris Forbes
From:
Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2002 10:25 am
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| well that's bomb diggity Mr. Johnston!!!! [This message was edited by Chris Forbes on 22 August 2002 at 11:26 AM.] |
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Jeff Watson
From:
Anza, CA. USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2002 4:55 pm
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| I'll be 50 in a couple of months. I play with a few different groups of people in L.A. and most of them are in their 20's, early 30's max. The only reason I get away with it, in the youth obsessed club scene out here, is 'cause I PLAY STEEL GUITAR! |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 22 Aug 2002 5:14 pm
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Well, I'm on the verge of 50. Hooked up with some 30-ish rockers who dug the hell out of what their music sounded like with me in the band. And I dug feeling like an elder statesman. We played 2 pretty successful gigs. Long-time fans of the band came up to me and raved about what I brought to the sound. Then a producer got interested in the leader/frontman/singer/songwriter. First thing he did is have him lose the old guy at the sewing machine. Then he fired the bassist because he was a few lbs. overweight, the drummer because he didn't have the right image and the guitarist said screw this and walked before Dave could do anything to him. They are advertising right now for a female black/hispanic bassist. God I love this business. But back to the subject, when mulletheads don't muck things up (but they always do, always will) I dig the spirit of younger guys and I dig when they recognize how much an older guy can bring to the table. Mmmmm. Hamburgers......
---oh, and Gary Lee--in '70 I too did the honorary brutha thing on organ with Lady & the Gents covering the best of the soul and r&b hits of the time. Mega-fun gig.[This message was edited by Jon Light on 22 August 2002 at 06:18 PM.] |
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 22 Aug 2002 5:19 pm
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I worked five months last year on a theater gig where all the rest of the performers age added together probably wasn't much more than mine alone!  Great cast of talented young people....I had a ball!
www.genejones.com |
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 23 Aug 2002 2:26 pm
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| In the country band I work with, the ages of the players are bass-25, drums-29, lead singer-38, lead guitar-52, keys,piano-54, and steel(ME)-62. The main reason they keep me in the band is for senior discount when we go to restaurants. Joe |
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Joe Smith
From:
Charlotte, NC, USA
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Posted 23 Aug 2002 3:23 pm
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When I first started playing I was too young to have a driver's license. I was playing every Fri and Sat night. The bass player used to pick me up and bring me home. We had three pieces. Stand up bass, guitar, and lap steel. The other guys were in their 30s,
Now I'm 65 and all the other guys in the band are in their 40 except Woody, our band leader. Woodie is in his late 50s.
One thing I have learned over the years that I have played music. Age doesn't matter. When you are making music with a bunch of guys and gals, everyone is the same age.
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Playing PSG keeps you on your toes.
[This message was edited by Joe Smith on 23 August 2002 at 04:26 PM.] |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 23 Aug 2002 11:21 pm
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Thanx for your answers guys.
when i started this thread i was thinkin' of todays youngsters havin' better access to Musik compared to days gone bye bye.
With all the methods, videos, schools,+ puters i find that many youngsters have better knowledge + chops than i did 30 years ago. So i was refering to todays young players playin' w: todays oldsters.
Sharing has always been common amongst Musicians since way back when.
(i remember when i was 17 i was learnin' how to play guitbox and this black dude that worked at a factory where i was asked me to stand in + play Bass w: him on week ends in a bar. It was nothin' to write home about but it taught me quite a lot)
i'll agree that age don't necessarily matter as long as the Musik cuts it and the Public digs it. But a few tomatoes can set things straight. |
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Dr. Hugh Jeffreys
From:
Southaven, MS, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2002 7:23 am
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| MUSICIANS When my band is booked (most always for a private gig, except when I was on ship the month of July in the Caribbean), I hand pick all musicians; they are usually graduates of Univ. of Mfs. or Rhodes College, and have at least 1 degree in music; reading my charts is never a problem; in fact, some of the guys I use comprised the orchestra at the Orpheum this month in the production of West Side Story; there was a one-day rehearsal for the entire production of the play; the guys cut it without a blink; they all double on other instruments as well. HJ |
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Gary Lee Gimble
From:
Fredericksburg, VA.
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Posted 24 Aug 2002 11:12 am
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Dr. Hugh, that sounds just great, but can you play Bud's Bounce
Gary Leeeeeeeeeeee |
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Dr. Hugh Jeffreys
From:
Southaven, MS, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2002 11:31 am
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| To Gary Lee: 'Never heard of it, but I play and wrote a chart on Billie's Bounce.--HJ |
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 25 Aug 2002 9:14 am
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"Billie's Bounce", uhmmmmmmmmmmm
Close but no boquet I'd guess.
Gary, Joe and myself are among the lucky ones that had the opportunity to play with older musicians. I was just 15....and was encouraged to hold up my end....to participate in arrangements initially believed to be far beyond my own capabilities
and with this I gained confidence and became a much better player, QUICKER, I'd have to say.
Not a slam at younger people of today, but it has been my experience that a number of today's younger players are so enmeshed in the gimmicks/gadgets mind set, and the taking of musical short cuts, that they tend to miss the boat entirely. Likewise, working WITH THE BAND rather than attempting to be the band I've found is a major drawback. |
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Dr. Hugh Jeffreys
From:
Southaven, MS, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2002 3:53 pm
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| To Ray M. It seems that we have several things in common with our musical backgrounds. First, tho, tell me about Bud's Bounce; is this a country tune, or is it from Stan Kenton's tenor man, Bud Shank (or Bud Powell)? Anyway, Billie's Bounce is a Coltrane tune with typical bebop progressions of a blues nature. Yes, I started young too. By the time I was 17, I was playing guitar with major orchestras in Memphis. A few years later, I organized my own combo using sax(& clarinet), Bass (double on tuba), Drums (doubling on Bongos/congos), and I played guitar and pedal steel; later all pedal steel, playing 5 parts in combination with the tenor or clarinet. As a younster I had a great opportunity to learn from the older guys who had been on the road on the Hotel Circuits of the day--a fine experience. -- Hugh |
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Tony Farr
From:
Madison, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 25 Aug 2002 5:08 pm
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Hey Doc.
Bud's Bounce was written by Bud Issacs, and it is country. |
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