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Rick Collins
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Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2004 9:04 pm |
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I'm stripping down my Dual Eight Professional for refinishing. Under the tuner pan on the inside neck is the date, 8-5-52 and the initials T.G. Do any of the original Fender people recognize the initials?
Also, does anyone know a source for the round head brass nails that hold the fretboards? I could reuse the original ones; but I'd rather have new ones.
Many thanks in advance, Rick[This message was edited by Rick Collins on 09 November 2004 at 09:05 PM.] |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 9 Nov 2004 9:07 pm
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| I'm stripping down my Dual Eight Professional for refinishing |
Aaauuugh! Isn't that illegal? Just don't get caught... |
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Ben Elder
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La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2004 10:10 pm
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Tadeo Gomez (really). Well known to Fender-instrument internists.
Umm...(>wince<)..."refinish"...?[This message was edited by Ben Elder on 09 November 2004 at 10:12 PM.] |
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Dan Sawyer
From:
Studio City, California, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 12:35 am
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| Rick, i'm sure you know this but just in case you don't, refinishing a vintage fender will knock it's value down considerably. If it was a '50s Tele or Strat, the value would go down about 2/3rds. |
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Todd Weger
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Safety Harbor, FLAUSA
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 5:12 am
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Rick -- I'm wincing too. I buy 'em to play 'em, and don't get the collector thing, but something like this, you want to have it keep its value, too.
That said, did you find it in deplorable condition? I think the arguement can be made that some of these "Frankenstein" abominations, where people drilled holes for pedal rods, etc., are good candidates for restoration.
If not though, I'd leave it as is. Just my .02 -- YMMV! 
TJW
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Todd James Weger/RD/RTD
1956 Fender Stringmaster T-8 (C6, E13, B11); 1960 Fender Stringmaster D-8 (C6, E13); Melobar SLS lapsteel (open D); Chandler RH-4 Koa semi-hollow lapsteel (open G); Regal resonator (open D or G)
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 5:15 am
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{FLAME SHIELDS ON}
While it's stripped, it would be a good time to rout it for pedal rods.
{/FLAME SHIELDS}
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Roy McKinney
From:
Ontario, OR
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 5:24 am
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| My D8 Stringmaster I just received a few days ago has 3 holes drilled in it for pedal rods and a couple of cigaretts burns on it. I am thinking of refinishing it to "Black".. I read somewhere that black was a option back then on the color choice. By the way mine is a 1956 model. |
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Eric Stumpf
From:
Newbury, NH 03255
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 5:25 am
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| The round-head brass nails are called escutcheon pins and can be bought at or ordered from any decent hardware store...they come in all different sizes and lengths. |
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Andy Volk
From:
Boston, MA
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 5:41 am
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| My 2 cents: having owned both a '52 custom Triple and currently, an early 60's Stringmaster 22.5, I prefer the warm sound of the trapazoid pickups. That said, the Stringmaster is far more versatile because of the wide range of tones available with the pickup blend knob. the Stringmaster's pickups are also quieter. Either guitar model will cover a huge variety of music and with the durability of a Sherman tank. |
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 5:53 am
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I refinished my walnut Dually ... a very early one at that (1 trapazoid, 1 boxcar).
Paid $50 for it in the 80's. It looked like someone tossed it off Mauna Loa.
Stripped, sanded, lacquered and buffed ... its beautiful now ...
I have re-finished rusty/nasty horseshoe magnets ... bakelite plates ... etc.
Replaced worn out 60+ yr. old potentiometers .. that sucked tone from the pups ... like I suck down a 6-pack.
And I've re-magnetized literally hundreds of magnets for folks.
I could care-a-less if George Beauchamp himself threw the swith on the electromagnet that charged up my Ricky frypan ...
I'd rather have it sound like it did in 1934 than "retain that original charge" 
That whole "All Original" concept may be fine for Guitar Collectors/Brokers ... but ...
Nothin' lasts forever ... so ...
Restoration is the "name of the game" ...
Just my Opinion ...
PS: Y'all should have seen Bobby Ingano's prewar 7 string A22 Frypan ... that Bill Creller Refinished/Restored ...
Stunning !!!!
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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Bill Creller
From:
Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 7:24 am
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I agree with Rick, because if it needs help, give it some. As far as adding padals, there are lots of pedal guitars on EBAY, so why tear up a REAL guitar, and make into a half breed. Just my opinion.
BILL |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 9:42 am
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I don't care what anybody says, I won't play an UGLY guitar. If it's all gouged up with cigarette burns, etc. I am going to do a refinishing job on it!
Erv |
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Kevin Ruddell
From:
Toledo Ohio USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 1:18 pm
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I just got my 53 Fender Dual Pro 8 magnets back from Mr. Aiello and re-installed them. Thank you Rick ! Already got my donation receipt back from the forum for a tax deduction.
I didn't realize fifty year old pots could be a drag on your guitar. The ones on my Fender work fine and noiselessly , how do you know if they need to be replaced ? |
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Don Joslin
From:
St. Paul, MN
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 1:42 pm
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I don't care what anybody says, I won't play an UGLY guitar. If it's all gouged up with cigarette burns, etc. I am going to do a refinishing job on it!
 I'm with you Erv (Rick too), BTW how's that new Fender quad coming? We still gotta get together and chat sometime.
Don
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Rick Aiello
From:
Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2004 1:55 pm
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Kevin ... if yours are quiet and functioning properly ... no need to mess with them.
Ones that I was refering to ... on old Rickys that I have bought ... were scratchy ... or didn't roll off signal ...
Capacitors too ... sometimes the tone controls wouldn't roll off treble ... much or at all.
My point was ... keeping scratchy pots and leaky caps ... for the sake of bein' "All Original" ...
Here is a very cool paper on Pots ... for fun bathroom reading 
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My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Rick Collins
From:
Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 9:30 am
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Many thanks to all.
Escutcheon pins Eric? Thanks for that. I learn something new every day that I look at the SGF.
Rick Aiello re-gaussed the magnets and installed new electronics on the control plate (thanks again Rick).
The guitar had been re-finished before. I'm in agreement with Erv; I don't like playing a beat-up instrument.
It's true that early Fender steel guitars are more desirable with the original finish; but they won't multiply in value like the solid-body electric guitars have done___not in our lifetime.
I have a 26" scale triple Stringmaster that I'm going to keep original. It has only a few dings.
Rick |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 11:26 am
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Don,
To tell you the truth, that quad needs a lot of work! It didn't show up in the pictures but it had been painted a light blue color some time in the past and somebody really did a number on the electronics. I have it all tore apart at present and will add it to my list of "projects".
Erv |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 8:18 pm
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I posted these pictures before, but; for those who haven't seen them yet, here they are again! I refinished both of my T–8 Customs with no regrets. They l©©k and sound much better than they did when they came into my posession! The Black one is actually made from Walnut and the Pewter is made from Ash. To me, they're nearly priceless now! And the best part is that “Jody” agrees! He always wanted a Pewter-type color. He may get one yet one of these days! click here
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(2)-Fender ’49–’50 T–8 Customs
Fender ’65 Reissue Twin-Reverb Custom™ 15”
click hereclick hereclick hereclick here
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George Keoki Lake
From:
Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 9:58 pm
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| Ugly guitars ? Heck, I hate playing guitars that haven't been dusted in months ! First thing I do when playing a strange guitar is to dust da buggah. I like CLEAN guitars |
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Rick Collins
From:
Claremont , CA USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 8:34 am
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I've never understood why some "electric" string instruments have had such abuse. One doesn't see this very often on acoustical instruments.
Willie Nelson's guitar is an exception to the above statement. Maybe he's keeping it original until it's value has increased to the point that the I.R.S. will accept it as payment for back-taxes.
Willie's guitar would qualify for an extreme makeover. I just wonder how much bigger of a success Willie might have been, if he had had that extreme makeover himself. |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 9:50 am
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I think Willy and his guitar are both in about the same condition!
Erv |
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Walt Wittich
From:
Waynesville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 10:10 am
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Big John: Lordy but those reconditoned T-8s are absolutely gorgeous beyond words! Would give my left.............well, maybe not quite. Thanks for the pics.
Walt In The Mountains |
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Greg Sullivan
From:
Poughqaug New York
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 11:08 am
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Jody has a mint new four neck in original condition.There is a story of this guitar in the 1988 edition of guitar player. I think Jodys friend Mr Van Allen can tell you more about that story of Jody and his four neck guitar and how many years it was in a music store in Ansonia Connecticut.Bankos music is the name of the store.
If you have Jody's hot club cd you will see a photo of him with it. Jody likes the stringmaster and would never sell it,he thinks the Custom guitar have a deeper and more natural sound,he always told me told Mr Fender that he was a "Treble Maker".
John Bechtel has beautiful guitars that Jody sent me and that was the last I heard from Jody since his wife got seriously ill.
If any of you have heard his hot club cd I would appreciate any comments pro or con as to what you think of the cd,,something like a reveiw.
Thanks
Greg Sullivan |
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Stephan Miller
From:
Silver Spring, Maryland, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 12:49 pm
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I've heard the Hot Club CD is fantastic. Can
anyone tell me for sure how to get hold of one? |
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Greg Sullivan
From:
Poughqaug New York
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Posted 12 Nov 2004 4:28 pm
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Sorry for messing things up,but its worth the wait.[This message was edited by Greg Sullivan on 12 November 2004 at 05:07 PM.] |
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