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erik

 

Post  Posted 3 Jul 2006 2:36 pm    
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He allowed one of his great songs to be used for a menopause ad. How sad.

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Chris LeDrew


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Post  Posted 3 Jul 2006 3:15 pm    
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His wife probably pressured him into it.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 3 Jul 2006 8:09 pm    
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Which song?

BTW The Midas Muffler company wanted to use "The Sound Of Silence," and Paul Simon refused to gve them permission.

Way to go Paul.

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Marlin Smoot


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Post  Posted 3 Jul 2006 8:21 pm    
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If I understand correctly, Merle Kilgore wanted to give Preparation H premission to use "Ring of Fire" but the Cash family rejected the idea. Funny?
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Earnest Bovine


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Post  Posted 3 Jul 2006 8:53 pm    
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He allowed one of his great songs to be used for a menopause ad
So is the ad helping to sell lots more menopause, or not?
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Jack Francis

 

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Post  Posted 3 Jul 2006 11:28 pm    
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I guess I just don't get it,,,SELLING OUT??

These song aren't Hymns or the STAR SPANGLED BANNER!

There just songs...make some bucks n' have some fun..... and lighten up.

[This message was edited by Jack Francis on 04 July 2006 at 12:28 AM.]

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Jim Phelps

 

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Post  Posted 3 Jul 2006 11:59 pm    
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Gotta go with Jack. It may seem like this is "selling out" to some, and hard to imagine someone from a band like the Allman Brothers, who we (or at least I) associate with memories of the '70's; riding motorcycles to biker bars to shooting pool, jamming with the bands, chasing the girls, giving the finger to "the man", being an all-around crazy rebel, etc.... but those days are pretty much gone.

The reality is that sooner or later the time comes when you gotta make the house payment, take care of the wife and kids. I don't know how much $$ Dicky Betts has saved up but I don't blame him for letting his song be used in a commercial. Besides, it's always more exposure for himself anyway. It took a lot of bread for Bob Seger to agree to let Chevy use "Like A Rock", but he finally did and I doubt if it hurt him any.

I wonder how many who talk about this kind of "selling out" would give just about anything to have their song used on a commercial...

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Tony Prior


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 2:36 am    
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Well , Limbaugh uses Chrissie Hynde's tune for his show ANCHOR, she's about as far the other direction in the scheme of things from him, but he also pays, according to Limbuagh , something in the neighborhood of $400,000 / year to use the song.

Did she sell out ? Nahh..she wrote a great song that is now earning her a great paycheck. She could have written a great song and let it live in obscurity.

Write the songs, let the folks hear em'....who cares where we hear them. I suspect if J Cash did not have any famous tunes, or was not a famous artist, Ring Of Fire would have been been made famous in another way for sure.

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erik

 

Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 3:43 am    
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The song is Blue Sky. Why someone thinks they can sell menopause treatment with this song is beyond me. Blue Sky is not just a song it's art.

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Stephen Gambrell

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 5:06 am    
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I'm still tryin' to figure out how Dickey got kicked out of the Allman Bros. for "substance abuse..."
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Bryan Bradfield


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 6:47 am    
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Don't forget that the most important word in the expression "selling out" is "selling".
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Barry Blackwood


Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 6:52 am    
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Sorry eric - it's just a song. Van Gogh is art. Before yesterday, I'd never heard of it......
Everybody lighten up and have a happy 4th.
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 7:02 am    
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I have to agree with Paul Simon. The music of the 60s ansd 79s is an important part of our lives. For may of us, it's our cultural heritage.

It deserves to be preserved for it's own sake, and not turned a tool to persuade us to buy stuff.



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Mark Eaton


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 7:30 am    
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"Before yesterday, I'd never heard of it"

Holy smokes, Barry. You must have been TOTALLY immersed in playing your steel in the early to mid 70's!

That song was pretty big time.

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Brad Sarno


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 8:36 am    
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Agreed. I think it's because his Marshall cabinets were loaded with JBL's and not Celestions. Oops, this isn't the Electronics forum.

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Tay Joslin

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 9:17 am    
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The finest "sell-out" in television history for the Allman Brothers has to be Cingular Wireless' use of "Melissa" on their commercial, but that probably had nothing to do with Dickey Betts. It really has nothing to do with cell phones, but it will help introduce a younger generation to the timeless music of the Allman Brothers Band.

I also enjoyed the television commercial from about nine or ten years back when the Coca-Cola/Pepsi rivalry commercial used "Your Cheatin' Heart" to set the tone. By virtue of that commercial using that song, I was able to introduce Hank Williams (and Don Helms) to my classmates without having to forfeit my albums!

I heard it stated a long time ago that Country artists (and, yes, I feel that Dickey Betts is Country regardless of his Rock-N-Roll fortune) are far more pleasant to work with than anyone else due to the laid-back touch to their music and the lack of greed when the issue of money is on the table. Just look at the recent credit card commercial that features Roger Miller's tune; his estate has got to be thrilled with the income that commercial will produce! Johnny Cash used to do small bits for Stetson cologne and Taco Bell; I doubt that he could've been replaced by a rap artist or a head-banging rocker to perform on those commercials, especially on the Stetson commercial. Jimmy Dean promotes his own brand of pork sausage, and he hasn't had a hit record in years! But, once again, I just can't picture Snoop Dogg or the guys from Nine Inch Nails promoting pork sausage on television. Apparently, "Southern" sells!

Back on track, though. I, too, felt a little nauseated when I heard "Blue Sky" on my television and looked up to see that it was being using to promote menopause awareness. Why not use a song like Marty Robbins' "Devil Woman" for that?

Yours truly,
Tay Joslin
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Dean Dobbins

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 9:20 am    
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I never heard of it before today!
I haven't seen the commercial,and I haven't heard the song, unless I heard it not knowing what it was. The object of writing and playing music professionaly, is to make money (and hopefully a living) so go for it. The commercial probably paid more than the song ever made, anyway.

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David Mason


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 9:22 am    
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..."Crazy"....
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Mark Leonard

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 9:30 am    
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Oddly enough, I don't mind the commercial aspect of well-known songs being used to sell products. What I do mind is when well-known, classic songs are used in modern Hollywood films to advance the plot in mindless, lazy ways. In a film like "Easy Rider" introducing powerful songs behind the action worked quite well. Unfortunately, the concept has been taken to new levels of ridiculousness by a new generation of directors and film editors. So, I guess I fall into the group that believes songs should be used with purpose (or at least not be used for filler).
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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 9:43 am    
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I've heard it said on this very Forum that
"pantomiming"to tracks on TV was the same thing as"selling out"...

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erik

 

Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 9:48 am    
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I don't wholeheartedly object to the use of modern songs for commercials. I just think this was a real poor choice for both parties. Blue Sky is about positive life experiences. I don't care how you spin it, menopause is a negative aspect of a woman's life.

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Steve Hinson

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 9:51 am    
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Is the commercial promoting menopause?Or a product developed to relieve its symptoms?I hope Dickey makes a million bucks off of it!He deserves it!

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erik

 

Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 12:54 pm    
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You still have to face your fans, the people that made you successful.

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Jon Light


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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 12:59 pm    
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Yep. And many of them are menopausal women.
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Bob Smith

 

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Post  Posted 4 Jul 2006 2:43 pm    
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I hope he makes 2 mill.!! Who does Paul Simon think he s kidding??
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