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Topic: Skynard on the Grammies tonight |
Rick McDuffie
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Benson, North Carolina, USA
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David L. Donald
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Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 13 Feb 2005 7:46 pm |
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Saw Skynyrd once on Cape Cod, opening for Jeff Beck and Jan Hammer
The band had IT, like Theda Bara had IT,
and sounded great, fun show. |
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Steve Hinson
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Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2005 8:09 pm
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| Rick,I am a big fan of Lynyrd Skynyrd...glad to see them still out there.Growing up 11 miles from Macon,Dickey Betts was one of my local guitar heroes(some pretty good guitar playing went on around there back in the day)... |
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Bart Maloney
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Houston, Texas
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Posted 13 Feb 2005 8:11 pm
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I missed the show, but I am a HUGE Skynyrd fan
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www.bartmaloney.iwarp.com
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2005 8:29 pm
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| As to Skynyrd, it's amazing what those cats did before they were 25 years old. There are certainly no young rockers today who can hold a candle to what they (and others)did back then. I have my theories as to why this is true, but that's a post for another day. |
Maybe it's because kids are smarter today? |
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Rick McDuffie
From:
Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2005 8:56 pm
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Would you like to "flesh that out" Doug?  |
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Rick Garrett
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Tyler, Texas
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Posted 14 Feb 2005 3:17 am
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Huge Skynard fan here. A few years ago they did a show here in Tyler at the Oil Palace. They opened for Hank Jr. I helped with security (Major mistake to never be made again) at the Oil Palace that night and was right off the stage dead center. I got hit with panties and several other sling shot looking garments during the Skynard part of the show. By the time it was over I coudln't hear well for a week. Ears ringing big time. They were great and the ladies were literally trying to crawl over us and concrete barriers to get to the band.
Rick |
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 14 Feb 2005 6:55 am
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>>>>>>>
There are certainly no young rockers today who can hold a candle to what they (and others)did back then.
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Young bands?
The Kings Of Leon, or if you like, Skynyrd if they were as graceful as the early Allman Brothers.
I could give other examples, but just went with a southern-rock type band, as that seems to be the vibe on this topic.
That's a modern take on the southern-rock sound, so they're not stuck in the blues cliche territory as most of the 'older' bands are.
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Mark Ardito
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Chicago, IL, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2005 12:38 pm
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Yeah, I saw that Skynyrd part of the Grammy's. Tim McGraw was just awful. That guy can only sing in a 4 note range and obviously those tunes were not in his range. Gretchen Wilson was pretty good. She can belt it out.
Mark
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John Steele (deceased)
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 14 Feb 2005 2:01 pm
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I never watch award shows, but when I woke up in my chair after a long day, it was on.
That's my excuse, anyway. I missed Skynyrd. I did catch Tim McGraw. What a truly horrendous singer that cat is. How does he get away with that ? Anyway.. positive thoughts...
Who was the guitarist/singer, 40-ish, who performed with only two others - a white guy with a beard on bass, and a black guy on drums... ? I thought they were great. He presented an award right after that, whoever he was.
-John
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 2:39 am
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| Who was the guitarist/singer, 40-ish, who performed with only two others - a white guy with a beard on bass, and a black guy on drums... ? I thought they were great. He presented an award right after that, whoever he was. |
John Mayer.
He also won for song of the year. |
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John Steele (deceased)
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 7:09 am
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Thanks Alvin. To me, that's a measure of talent, when you can sit down on a chair with a guitar and a simple cut-down band and turn out quality like that.
So, I guess we can't blame this one on the monitor system. 
Sorry Tim McGraw, but my T.V. screen obviously isn't big enough to have uncovered any talent on your part. You're just bad.
Perhaps a halftime show with Ashlee Simpson would be in order.
-John |
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Bill Terry
From:
Bastrop, TX
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 7:55 am
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| Speaking of Skynard, I thought Melissa Etheridge absolutely nailed that JJ tune. Wow! |
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Rick McDuffie
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Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 8:29 am
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I missed Melissa.
I will add one more thing. It's time for those guys to get a haircut. The long tresses don't have the same effect at 55-60 as they did at 23. It ain't working for me.
Rick |
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chas smith R.I.P.
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Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 9:29 am
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| And Melissa did that, post-chemo, so for me it was not only excellent, it was a wonderful effort. |
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Mark Metdker
From:
North Central Texas, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 10:53 am
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| I thought Keith Urban kicked tail. The dude can rock when he wants to. |
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Chris Schlotzhauer
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Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 11:49 am
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| I thought Keith Urban kicked tail. The dude can rock when he wants to. |
You're kidding, right? |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 12:21 pm
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To me Skynrd died in the early 70's on that plane crash. Without Ronnie VanZant they're not Lynyrd Skynynrd (or however you spell it). Steve Gaines also died in that plane crash. It'd be like going to a Ray Price concert with 2 or 3 of the Cherokee Cowboys playing and Ray's brother (if he had one) singing Ray's vocal parts. It's not LS!!! We had a Marshall Tucker concert here a couple of years ago but Toy Cauldwell's dead as is his brother Tommy and who knows who else in the band. There are cover bands out there doing LS and MS tunes every night but they're not them, neither are these guys just because they own the name. Just my opinion but I prefer the real thing. I have Skynrd's Box Set and there ain't a dude in the current lineup that sang one note on any of the tunes. Maybe the keyboard player and one of the guitar players but whoopee!!...JH in Va.
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Rick McDuffie
From:
Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2005 1:21 pm
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Jerry,
Rickey Medlocke, now on guitar, played drums on Skynyrd's First... and Last before quitting to form Blackfoot with Lenny Stadler, so he's an original member. Gary Rossington and Billy Powell are originals. Artie Pyle is still living, but no longer in the band. Allen Collins survived the plane crash, but was paralyzed in a motorcycle accident and died later. Leon passed away just a couple of years ago.
In my opinion this band still sounds like LS and has their vibe... Johnny VZ does a good job on vocals, and he's not just some guy they picked up off the street.
The current MTB is another story. The only original MTB member in the current organization is Doug Gray.
For that matter, you could say the same thing about the Allmans... Only Gregg and the 2 drummers are original guys. But, man they still sound like the ABB... as good or better with Oteal, Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks as they were with Dickey, Duane and Berry.
This reminds me of the scene in Spinal Tap where Nigel and David are talking about their evolution. They were originally "The Originals" but they found out that there was another band called "The Originals", so they changed their name to "The New Originals". [This message was edited by Rick McDuffie on 15 February 2005 at 01:23 PM.] |
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Geoff Brown
From:
Nashvegas
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Posted 16 Feb 2005 4:22 pm
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| But, man they still sound like the ABB... as good or better with Oteal, Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks as they were with Dickey, Duane and Berry |
Uhh...no.
As for the Grammys, it was more of the over-the-top, largely tasteless nonsense, that I know them for. Southern rock tribute with 2 minute versions of 10-minute tunes. Skynard is pretty much a tribute band at this point, really. I've talked to guys who've seen recent gigs, and the reports have not been good. Going thru the motions.
Interesting to see the country music biz trying to re-create itself on the tattered coattails of a genre that saw its hayday 30 years ago. It was embarrassing.
I'm happy as hell for Loretta. I think it's a great record. Purists will snub it, but Loretta knows where she's from, and it's all over that record. Pick your decade...she's great.
I thought Green Day was great. Straight-up, here we are, and this is what we do. A breath of fresh air. U2 could use an injection of their energy.
Alisha Keyes was the best talent on the stage. The Mariah Careys and other posers can't hold a candle. None of this how-many-notes-can-I-cram-into-a single-bar BS. Keyes is the real deal. She has soul. Real soul. Aretha-soul.
I was dissappointed that the 13th Floor Elevators weren't inducted as lifetime members 
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2005 5:14 pm
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| "...as good as with Duane,etc"...naw,I don't believe so...get your Fillmore East album out and listen to it... |
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Rick McDuffie
From:
Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2005 5:39 pm
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Ok, guys... I take it back. I was a little overenthusiastic. I actually heard Statesboro Blues on the radio while driving home from a gig Friday... Wow!
Forgive the blasphemy, please
It's not common for me to admit I was wrong about anything.
But... I WAS watching the Allmans Freeview on DirecTV a few months back, and Derek is amazing. The thing is, he's almost as old now as Duane was when he died. |
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2005 6:10 pm
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Yeah,Derek is great...I read an interview where Butch was talking about how much better Derek is than Duane was at the same age...I don't hear it..."Statesboro Blues"...I ain't ever heard anything better than that.
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Rick McDuffie
From:
Benson, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 16 Feb 2005 7:38 pm
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"I ain't ever heard anything better than that"
I hear ya, Steve |
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Geoff Brown
From:
Nashvegas
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Posted 16 Feb 2005 11:06 pm
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| Duane and Derek. Two different players going in two different directions. It's hard to really compare them. I don't think they have as much in common as some would believe. Derek is a good player in his own right. I saw him last summer. I was impressed with his speed and precision. I didn't find him to be a particularly soulful player. I'd pretty much heard everything he could do after 20 minutes. Beyond that, it was just repetitive riffing. He can play, and I'm not slamming him. He leans more towards the jazz improv end of the spectrum. He's not a blues player. Nothing wrong with that. Allman could blister you... rip your heart out with his slide. He could also play the most beautiful, lyrical things. Please Be With Me type stuff. Who's better? Those kinds of questions never have an answer. |
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