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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2024 9:19 am    
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I'm assuming adjust spring to just keep the raise finger from moving? Is it that simple? Wink

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bob
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2024 11:14 am    
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But also, of course, enough to absolutely, positively return any lower to comb-plate stop.
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 2 Nov 2024 12:53 pm    
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Jon Light wrote:
But also, of course, enough to absolutely, positively return any lower to comb-plate stop.


Right!

bob
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 4 Nov 2024 9:37 am    
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Jon Light wrote:
But also, of course, enough to absolutely, positively return any lower to comb-plate stop.


So lower springs are actually open string stops always?

1st thin to do is adjust that first?

bob
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 4 Nov 2024 9:57 am    
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Bob Snelgrove wrote:
Jon Light wrote:
But also, of course, enough to absolutely, positively return any lower to comb-plate stop.


So lower springs are actually open string stops always?

1st thin to do is adjust that first?

bob


In short, yes.

What I do is with the guitar on its back (legs in the air) I push a lowering lever and release it s l o w l y . I'm actually trying to get the lowering finger to hang up and not return to the stop. Bottom line is, I want as little spring tension as possible in order to not load down the lever's feel. But that's a luxury and is totally secondary to the primary function. As soon as I find how much/little spring tension I absolutely need to get the finger to 100% consistently return, I give it another quarter turn for good luck.

Then, if there's a raise on that string, I check the raise to make sure there's enough spring tension to keep the lower finger from moving.

If there isn't a lower on a particular string, I give the spring some extra cranks just to nail down that finger so I don't have to even think about it.

And just to be very clear, this-all pertains to a all-pull guitar.
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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 4 Nov 2024 11:44 am    
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Good stuff, as always

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Bob Snelgrove


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san jose, ca
Post  Posted 5 Nov 2024 10:12 am    
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What about a string that only raises. no lower?

bob
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Jon Light


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Saugerties, NY
Post  Posted 5 Nov 2024 11:05 am    
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Jon Light wrote:

If there isn't a lower on a particular string, I give the spring some extra cranks just to nail down that finger so I don't have to even think about it.



I once did an emergency repair on someone's guitar that he needed to be playable, right now. He had a lower that was not returning because the spring was old & stretched (and not adjustable). So I pulled a good return spring from his 3rd string and tied the 3rd string lower finger in place with some wire. It wasn't going anywhere and the problem finger was good as new with the good spring.
Wasn't pretty but with no time to try to source a spring, it did the job.
So all I'm saying is, if there is no need to lower the string, just tighten that spring good and solid. No reason to overstretch the spring but also no need to worry about 'balancing' things.
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Dag Wolf


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Bergen, Norway
Post  Posted 7 Nov 2024 1:02 pm    
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Lower return spring.
1. adjust to return firmly after lowering.
2 adjust so it´s not leaving the stop bar when you raise!

If you over tighting the spring the raise finger will move when you lower - then canceling the lower to a degree.

Best way to adjust = Tune strings and do the raise and hold. Feel with you finger how much pressure it will take to move the lower finger from the stop bar. It need to stay with just so much.
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