| Author |
Topic: Oouuch!! |
Terry Edwards
From:
Florida... livin' on spongecake...
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 6:31 am |
|
#%&*@$%#&....darn 3rd string!
This time it broke at the tuning head and snapped back across my fingers and left a half inch gash across the first finger first knuckle! Bled like a stuck hog! This was by far the worst break I've ever had. Scared the bejeezus out of me!
I'm tired of this string breaking every two or three weeks. Any guitars out there that don't break the third?
Terry
|
|
|
 |
Steve Stallings
From:
Houston/Cypress, Texas
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 6:38 am
|
|
Not that I know of... I know some guitars do this less than others and some are real "blood drawers"  , but I know of no guitar which never breaks strings.
------------------
God Bless,
Steve Stallings
www.thenightshiftband.net
|
|
|
|
Grant Johnson
From:
Nashville TN
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 7:19 am
|
|
I have been playing my Marlen S-10 (E9)for six months. I play about an hour a day, and couple hours on the weekends. Probably an average of 8-10 hours a week and have only broken one #3 string G-sharp in this time.
Probably luck! |
|
|
|
Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 7:28 am
|
|
| Terry, check for a binding or sticky nut roller. Normally, strings break at the changer end, so when strings break at the roller, that is usually the reason. |
|
|
|
John Sluszny
From:
Brussels, Belgium
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 7:29 am
|
|
Grant,do you play with the B pedal sometimes? (just kiddin')
Now,what kind of strings do you use?
Thanks.
JS |
|
|
|
Jim Eaton
From:
Santa Susana, Ca
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 8:39 am
|
|
Check the 3rd stg tuning key for a sharp edge or burr around the hole that the string go's through. When the stg breaks at the keyhead end, that can be the cause. IMHO
JE:-)> |
|
|
|
Grant Johnson
From:
Nashville TN
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 8:44 am
|
|
I use cobra coils standard e9 and mash the A/B pedals constantly!  |
|
|
|
Roger Shackelton
From:
MINNESOTA (deceased)
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 10:02 am
|
|
| Pushin' A & B Pedals is the correct term. Mashin' is for potatos. |
|
|
|
Terry Edwards
From:
Florida... livin' on spongecake...
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 10:05 am
|
|
I use Jagwire SS strings. I average about 1-2 hours practice per day and more on weekends. This is the first time I broke one on the keyhead side. It broke at the tuner and not the roller. I'll inspect the tuning key for burs when I get home. I took this opportunity to put on a set of Lloyd Green signature E9 strings with the 0.0115 3rd string and a wound 6th. I still have to stretch them out and tune, tune, tune!
Steel playing is hazardous work!
Terry |
|
|
|
Bob Doran
From:
Ames, Iowa, USA
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 10:19 am
|
|
My Emmons circa 1982 virtually never breaks a string.
But i use a tip i learned from a lead guitarist.
I boil the light strings in water for 5 minutes before stringing.
It works!
Bob |
|
|
|
Chris Schlotzhauer
From:
Colleyville, Tx. USA
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 10:41 am
|
|
| I have switched to the JagWire strings. They are amazing how much longer they last. I've never broken one on a gig because I'll change my 11 or 17 because I forgot when I put them on, so I fear breaking one on a big show. I used to change them every other show. |
|
|
|
sonbone
From:
Waxahachie, TX
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 11:16 am
|
|
I use the cheapest .011's and .017's possible (bulk Rouges from Musicians Friend) and change them every 3-4 days. I haven't broken one in a very long time. I don't know who makes those strings but the quality of them seems to be fine. Right now they're $2.19 a dozen...no reason not to change early and often. By the way, I don't work for Musician's Friend, just passing along info :-)
Link: http://www.musiciansfriend.com
Search for 120011 and 120017.
Sonny |
|
|
|
Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 12:00 pm
|
|
Get an Excel keyless guitar and put Jagwires on it. No string breakage - not even the pesky 3rd - ever. I got a 3rd string(.011)on there now that has hung in there since the middle of last month - around 30 3 set gigs. I'm gonna change it before this weekend cause it's sounding kinda dead.
-MJ- |
|
|
|
James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 5:04 pm
|
|
| Get some Jagwires. I ain't no expert, but I believe most other strings are just regular guitar strings that are labeled "steel" strings. Regular guitar strings can't take the pulls of a steel guitar very long. I busted 6th strings like a mule skinner, until I went with jags. Jags have alot more elasticity. You can feel the elasticity in the jags. I hate changing strings, so I abuse them as long as I can. I play an S-10 Marlen, also. Again, this is just my novice opinion. Adios |
|
|
|
Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 5:38 pm
|
|
Either you had a Burr on the tuning peg...or the Roller was binding...or you didn't give enough wraps on the tuning peg.
As far as the wraps> you want at least 5 or 6...as that will stabilize that end of the tension...>as if either end is not stable....one end will let'r go.
I too use Jagwires and I found them to be the most quality string I've ever used>wanna know how I know???
First time I put a set of Jagwires on my steel...>same guages> I had to retune many many pulls; because they were now going "SHARP" of what they were.....>and that my friend tells you right there..."It takes less tension to pull a Jagwire to Pitch"....and that calcutlates to longer use before it fatigues....and that is what we all want, ain't it???
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 21 October 2003 at 06:39 PM.] |
|
|
|
Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 8:13 pm
|
|
| Sounds like a burr on the key. Take the largest wrapped string that will go thru the hole and work it back and forth thru and around the hole. It should take care of your problem . Jody. |
|
|
|
Michael Johnstone
From:
Sylmar,Ca. USA
|
Posted 21 Oct 2003 9:02 pm
|
|
| If Jagwires take less of a pull to get to a given pitch compared to other strings,that means the the cores of Jagwire strings are larger than the cores of other strings - which is indeed a good thing for longevity and tone. -MJ- |
|
|
|
John Sluszny
From:
Brussels, Belgium
|
Posted 22 Oct 2003 7:10 am
|
|
"Pushin'A&B Pedals is the correct term.Mashin' is for potatoes."
Jeff Newman SQUEEZES them![This message was edited by John Sluszny on 22 October 2003 at 08:11 AM.] |
|
|
|
Terry Edwards
From:
Florida... livin' on spongecake...
|
Posted 22 Oct 2003 7:39 am
|
|
Thanks for all the advice everyone!
I didn't find any burrs. It is possible I didn't have enough wraps.
Ricky, thanks for the informative post on Jagwires.
I played with the new Lloyd Green set yesterday. I'm not used to the wound 6th string. It feels funny! I'll stick with it and try to get used to it. I had to reposition the pull rod to get more leverage with the wound string. I need to spend more time with it to evaluate the overall tone and feel of the wound 6th.
Well, gotta go. I'm having leftover "pushed and squeezed" potatoes for lunch!
Terry[This message was edited by Terry Edwards on 22 October 2003 at 08:42 AM.] |
|
|
|
Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
|
Posted 22 Oct 2003 8:19 am
|
|
Ricky,
Out of curiosity, was it only the wound strings that took less travel? |
|
|
|
Doug Seymour
From:
Jamestown NY USA (deceased)
|
Posted 22 Oct 2003 8:37 am
|
|
| My Excel keyless S10 was traded to me in April of 2000 at Rick Troyer's show in Ohio that year. It was new (I don't think it's a "B" model like Carl Dixon's) and set up as an E9th guitar with 3 & 5. I changed it to C6th when I got it home. It's standard w/a D 1st rather than a G and I've never changed strings nor ever broken one since then! Not sure what it would have done if I'd left it E9th. Might have broken the G# 3rd like all the rest, but I'd guess not! Granted I don't play much, but Carl has said the Excel changer just doesn't break strings. |
|
|
|
Doug Seymour
From:
Jamestown NY USA (deceased)
|
Posted 22 Oct 2003 8:39 am
|
|
| Oops, Larry, wound strings take more travel, don't they?? [This message was edited by Doug Seymour on 22 October 2003 at 09:40 AM.] |
|
|
|
Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
|
Posted 22 Oct 2003 9:34 am
|
|
Larry; yes that is correct....it was the wound strings...as I'm sure what Michael eluded to about the core being larger.
The plain strings were ever soooo slightly pulling sharp> and I'm talking about just blowing on the nylon tuner and it's set..ha> and only the plain strings that raised...> but they were pulling sharp.
Ricky |
|
|
|
Curt Langston
|
Posted 5 Jan 2006 4:42 pm
|
|
| SIERRA KEYLESS!! |
|
|
|
Bobbe Seymour
From:
Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
|
Posted 5 Jan 2006 6:51 pm
|
|
Curt, only now am I really starting to appreciate your incredible sense of humor.
Man, it took me a while, I apoligise. You are one really funny dude!
I'm going to watch you closer and try to develop a better appreciation of humor.
Sorry I took you wrong on a former thread.
You were just "over my head".
Bobbster |
|
|
|
