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Topic: what is it? Year , Make , Value? thanks |
George Geisser
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Branson, Missouri, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2019 8:14 am |
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Dick Chapple Sr
From:
Hardin Montana, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2019 1:37 pm guitar
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| The fret boards look like ZB fret boards, at least by observing the fret boards on the D11 ZB for sale above this post. |
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Jim Palenscar
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Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2019 7:50 am
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| Miller?? |
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Rick Abbott
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2019 9:46 am
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It does have some Miller-looking parts. Can we see the underside?
Keyplates look Miller, sort of, the narrow end looks fatter than the two I've had.
Pickups look a lot like the ones on the oldest of my two Millers.
Those bolts by the headstock are like my older Miller
Pickup surround and axle look like my older Miller, except mine was a pull-release pedal steel, this appears to be a non-pedal...no tuners on the pickup end.
To my knowledge, Miller didn't put switches between necks, or volumetone pots on the deck behind the changer. Might not be original, may be a custom. I'm no expert.
As a mystery, maybe Miller, non-pedal, I'd say $400-$600 depending on legs and condition. But, I'd need more pictures.
If it is a Miller from the early-mid 1960's, the pickups are probably wound up to 23-30K and will sound bad. But the giutar, with new pickups would likely sound HUGE. I really regret giving away my older Miller. It was a really fat sounding guitar with 18K Wallace TrueTones.
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RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
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J R Rose
From:
Keota, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2019 6:31 pm
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I think that is a B & P Guitar. A little bit of this and a little bit of that. Who knows , could be a great sounding guitar. J.R.
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NOTHING..Sold it all. J.R. Rose |
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George Geisser
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Branson, Missouri, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 10:22 am what is it? Year , Make , Value? thanks
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 12:49 pm
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"WOW"  |
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Rick Abbott
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 1:12 pm
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If Roger Miller built that, I'd be surprised. The underside is not at all like Miller. It's not a Blankenship, or Blankenship and Wheeler. I'm stumped.
The pedals look like EARLY Miller. Maybe someone took one of his early guitars and put the cable pull parts? Kinda like a cable version of a ShoBud Permanent...
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RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer 1963 Gibson Falcon |
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Jack Goodson
From:
new brockton,alabama (deceased)
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 1:54 pm ?
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| could be a barney miller?....thanks jack |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 2:08 pm
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Wow that’s a little jewel. If it were mine the rats nest of pullies an cables would have to go.
An then start over with a new undercarriage an changers.
Salvage End plates
Legs
Key heads
Cabinet
Pedal board
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George Geisser
From:
Branson, Missouri, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 4:49 pm
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| Kind of sad, all that work on a cable clone! I bet it has one heck of a story if it could speak. That much work would suggest a great player. WHAT IS IT WORTH? |
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Rick Abbott
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 5:29 pm
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The old adage is: "Whatever someone will pay for it."
I'm sticking to my $400-$600 guess. Man, it's impossible to really say, unless we could somehow figure out it's pedigree. And if/how it works.
I think it would make a great D10 non-pedal, or have a few changes on each neck to enhance the non-pedal tone. Not like a "normal" PSG. I have done that to my 1966 Sho~Bud Crossover. Bad as a pedal guitar...fantastic as a (sort of) non-pedal.
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RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer 1963 Gibson Falcon |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 29 Mar 2019 5:44 pm
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Those changers don't even resemble each other.
It looks like someone used a Sharpie to write on some of the parts. |
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George Geisser
From:
Branson, Missouri, USA
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Posted 30 Mar 2019 9:57 am
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| Looks like the sharpie is directions for the lever adjustments. There sure is alot of odd adjustment screws |
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Erv Niehaus
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Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 31 Mar 2019 5:58 am
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All I can say is whoever built that should be arrested!!
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Gabriel Edell
From:
Hamilton, Ontario
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Posted 31 Mar 2019 2:52 pm
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I can't imagine trying to keep that thing in tune. OMG.
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Mark McCornack
From:
California, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2019 10:16 am
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Zowwie! I just spent an hour wrestling with the underside my Pro~I, and when I saw the undercarriage of that guitar I have to admit to a brief wave of nausea  . It looks like you have enough functional bits on the top side though to evaluate this as a Non-Pedel steel. Nothing wrong with that! How does it sound? That’s the key. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 4 Apr 2019 10:26 am
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wow, someone went thru a lot to build this monster ! Holy Cow.
Where do you adjust the half stop ? 
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Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 4 Apr 2019 10:26 am
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| Erv Niehaus wrote: |
All I can say is whoever built that should be arrested!!
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Or given an award ! 
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Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2019 10:53 am
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Tony,
Yes, for ingenuity!
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George Geisser
From:
Branson, Missouri, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2019 11:45 am
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| This guitar belongs to a friend of a friend and I am hoping to trade a Mexican Tele for it and that only after seeing how it works, plays and sounds. I'm drawn to history and I figure there must be one heck of a story behind this guitar. I'll keep you posted on progress if any |
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Mark McCornack
From:
California, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2019 11:50 am
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| Another curious thing I noticed in the pictures is that the cabinet appears to be rather shallow in profile. An experiment to try is to see what sort of cab drop to get on the open strings with a center pedal pressed down. It just looks a bit flexible and I wonder if that could be another issue. |
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George Geisser
From:
Branson, Missouri, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 9:28 am
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| Yes Mark. I thought the same thing about its shallowness. So far there's no change in status. When there is little to no interest even on the SGF it suggests I may be barking up the wrong tree. I'm just so intrigued by its oddness and perceived history. |
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Mark McCornack
From:
California, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 1:19 pm
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| Though personally my initial interest in steel guitar was in “pedal-steelâ€, the more exposure I get to non pedaled steel guitar, the more I am appreciating how cool It can be. There is some absolutely great music up for grabs on non-pedal steel, and even if the pedaling mechanism looks overwhelming to resurrect, what about the merits of the instrument as a non-pedaled instrument? How does it sound? Are the mechanics otherwise in tact? |
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Thomas Ruikkie
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2019 1:33 pm ??
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I dont it was b
Barney Miller... looks more like Barney Fife |
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