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chas smith R.I.P.


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Encino, CA, USA
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2005 5:34 pm    
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I did a session on a rock album, that came out on Universal Records yesterday. I was looking for my name in the credits, and I'm listed as playing peddle steel.
...all my famly can rede an rite reel gud...
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Dave Van Allen


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Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2005 5:37 pm    
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yeah, but you got paid for the session?

anything but late for dinner...

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Al Udeen

 

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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2005 6:50 pm    
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Could of been worse! like. "Steel Peddle"
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Sonny Priddy

 

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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2005 6:56 pm    
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I Played A Little Deal One Time And A Woman Put It In The Paper And Said I Played The Keybord. I Was Playing Steel Guitar.ha. She Didn't Know What It Was. SONNY.

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chas smith R.I.P.


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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2005 9:50 pm    
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Yup, I don't care what you call me, as long as you call me....
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2005 10:40 pm    
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A large sign was posted in the hotel lobby of a well known PSG show several years ago... "Peddle Steel Guitar Show Today". I guess the hotel workers were trying to be helpful, but geez... it was pretty embarrassing.
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Jim Phelps

 

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Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 16 Aug 2005 11:08 pm    
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Sadly, I'm not a bit surprised.

Well, as long as they spelled your name right.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 3:04 am    
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Pretty funny, Sonny.

I guess it works for a 'Peddle Steel Guitar Show,' since that's what the salesman are doing.
So let's all get ready for the decreasing value of grammar and spelling.
My Grammar could spell pretty well.
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Martin Abend


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Berlin, Germany
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 5:05 am    
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Which album was it?

MArtin

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Ray Minich

 

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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 5:43 am    
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Puddle Steel Guitar (after it rains?)
Peddle Steel Guitar
Petal Steel Guitar (made from the flower of the Iron Wood Tree)
Piddle Steel (won't go there)
Poodle Steel Guitar (needs occasional trimming)
Paddle Steel Guitar (whips and chains?))

And: pydyl steel guitar for the idyllic amongst us...

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Dave Potter

 

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Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 5:44 am    
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So let's all get ready for the decreasing value of grammar and spelling


Sadly, it's here now, brought to us by our wonderful gov'ment schools more interested in teaching sensitivity and condoms than readin' and writin', our pop-culture that gets its news from Entertainment Tonight, and the media, which can't bring itself to use words with more than one syllable, or verbs other than present tense.
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Chris LeDrew


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Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 6:24 am    
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I agree, Dave. It has been deemed embarrassing and snobbish to have good spelling and grammar these days. Spellcheck has all but phased out the need for spelling knowledge and memorization.

I am an English Major, and have corrected many essays by first year students. Illiteracy is alive and well. They just don't care about English. They don't realize the respect you can command in this world by having a good grasp of the English language, or any other language for that matter. In the past, you were judged on your ablilities with language; nowadays, you're a geek if you know how to properly spell, write and speak.
I consider proper grammar a dying art form, I really do.
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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 7:37 am    
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And the thing is, in school beginning in the 50's, it was so easy to learn. Not a big deal at all.
Pretty soon they won't call it an apostrophe, it'll be a 'hook.'
Color me old.
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Jim Ives


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Los Angeles, California, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 10:21 am    
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Puddle steal.
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 10:27 am    
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Chas, so what wuz rong wif da' spelin'?

Mr. Smith, you are still my hero no matter how they speel your mane or "peedel stheel".

(I can speel "Bigsby" correctly though).

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Greg Vincent


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Folsom, CA USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 11:27 am    
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Hey Dave P. those "gov'ment schools" might be better at teaching grammar if they had better funding.

Oh well, I guess the money is needed elsewhere for invasions & stuff.

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John Daugherty


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Rolla, Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 11:28 am    
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Bobbe,have you been listening to "Bigsby and Richly"?
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Bobbe Seymour

 

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Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 1:47 pm    
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John D., Ha! No more than I have to!
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Dave Potter

 

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Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 2:17 pm    
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Hey Dave P. those "gov'ment schools" might be better at teaching grammar if they had better funding.


You're joking, right? Nope, throwing more money at the existing, screwed up system won't fix it, it would only make it worse.

There are lots of things that could (and should) be done differently in the school systems across the country to get them back on track, but that's a different thread.
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Chris Lucker

 

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Los Angeles, California USA
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 4:07 pm    
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Hey Greg V.
Or if the Teachers Unions were not the largest Political Action Committee contributors in the state and the second largest Independent Expenditure Committee spenders in the state.
Chris
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Michael Barone


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Downingtown, Pennsylvania
Post  Posted 17 Aug 2005 4:08 pm    
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A person must be willing to accept an education. If they aren't, the parents influence, or lack of it is the problem. Blame the media or culture if you want, but a person focused on learning can separate external influences from working toward a goal with support from the home.

Dave, schools do need money. I know my program needs it just to keep pace with technology. I worked very hard to get a grant. Now that I got it, the bottom line is my students can earn up to 16 college credits while still in high school. Is it worth the money?

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Charlie McDonald


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2005 3:09 am    
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I consider proper grammar a dying art form, I really do.

I hate to help whip this dead horse, but the art of speech and writing was once truly an art. With educators for parents, we (my sibs and I) grew up with good diction as a social grace. I've never found it hard, and with standards lowering, it's all the more easy.

Nothing to do about it, I fear, except enjoy what I know, and expect no more than that.
I'm down widat.
Wassup?
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Dave Potter

 

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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2005 4:49 am    
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A person must be willing to accept an education. If they aren't, the parents influence, or lack of it is the problem.


Bingo.

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Blame the media or culture if you want, but a person focused on learning can separate external influences from working toward a goal with support from the home.


The media is the *result* of the culture. The media only gives us what we demonstrate we want them to, by consuming their products.

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Dave, schools do need money.....Is it worth the money?


Of course, schools need money; I didn't say anything to the contrary. But my point was, simply throwing more taxpayer money at the school system is a cop out in terms of addressing what's really wrong. The system could be vastly improved, IMO, by changing some things that wouldn't require more money.

Taxpayers are up to their ears trying to finance the existing, politically-correct agenda, with tripe like "Heather Has Two Mommies", how to properly fit a condom on a banana, the global warming myth, and how bad corporate America is for the country and the world. The resources being consumed in these intellectually-vacant activities could be simply reallocated toward subjects the students will use later in life. This alone would be a major step toward breaking the current cycle of graduating functional illiterates who can't write or speak and can't make change from a dollar bill.

I'm not holding my breath, but I'd like to see a big piece of the burgeoning public school administrator budget moved over to support teaching. I'd also like to see a way to separate the disruptive students from the ones who want to learn (meaning, the ones that aren't overtly disruptive), and a move away from the expectation that teachers should also be pseudo-parents to their students. Another significant issue is all the taxpayer money now being consumed to educate students in the country illegally.

So, yes, schools absolutely need money. But the legislators and the school systems have an obligation to the taxpayers to use the money to best advantage, and that's not happening.

[This message was edited by Dave Potter on 19 August 2005 at 05:07 AM.]

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Greg Vincent


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Folsom, CA USA
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2005 6:59 am    
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Taxpayers are up to their ears trying to finance the existing, politically-correct agenda, with tripe like "Heather Has Two Mommies", how to properly fit a condom on a banana, the global warming myth, and how bad corporate America is for the country and the world.


Yes all that sounds pretty expensive. Have you seen the price of bananas lately???

Hey Dave P. you forgot the mention the "evolution myth".

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Michael Barone


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Downingtown, Pennsylvania
Post  Posted 18 Aug 2005 9:49 am    
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I have a feeling that the lock will be put on this thread soon, but I just wanted to add this.
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I'd also like to see a way to separate the disruptive students from the ones who want to learn, and moving the curriculum back to subjects the students will use later in life.

Man, do I feel fortunate. I have only witnessed 2 physical confrontations (school-wide) involving students during the last 10 years, with no trouble in the classroom. Our total enrollment for a given year in around 850-900. I have around 32, split morning and afternoon.

Vo-tech (in our state) is operated by an Intermediate Unit, not a school district. That's the difference, and that's why it's a popular choice now, with a waiting list to get in. We don't tolerate insubordination, and have a built-in filtering system.

I have, however, heard some horror stories from those who work for a district in a city, which confirms Dave's point in that situation.

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