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Topic: Nylon Tuning Nuts |
Marc Weller
From:
Upland, Ca. 91784
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Posted 6 Nov 2004 5:49 pm |
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What is the normal lifespan of nylon tuning nuts ?? I switched a couple of mine around after I had a problem with some raises returning flat. Should I just go ahead and replace them all as a matter of maintenance ? My steel is about 8 years old.
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 6 Nov 2004 6:27 pm
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Marc-I have noticed that on a guitar with a few years on it and lots of playing and tuning, those nylon tuners get loose and wont hold the tune as well. Then it is wise to replace them with new. It is a small investment and well worth it....al 
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Joey Aguilera
From:
Whittier, California, USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 1:30 am
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Tom Callahan
From:
Dunlap, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 3:03 am
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Just got a pack of ten from Bobbe Seymour Friday. They got all sizes hangin on the wall.
Just make sure you get the right size.
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Tom Callahan
Emmons S-10
Nashville 400
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Jim Smith
From:
Midlothian, TX, USA
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 9:39 am
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I could use some help here, too. The nylons on my rig are quite tight and hard to turn, resulting in tuning "clicks" rather than smooth progressions.
Is there any sort of lube that works, or is this another issue?
James
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Ed Naylor
From:
portsmouth.ohio usa, R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 9:49 am
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| There are a couple kinda of tuners. I use the Nylon 101 that is drilled for 3/32 rods. These can be drilled for the 5-40 rods I use and can also be drilled to the 6-32 rod for Sho-Bud and MSA.Because the are SELF THREADING the are more durable than the old "White" plastic nuts that are sometimes used. Ed Naylor Steel Guitar Works. |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 9:56 am
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| James--that's a good question that I've never seen come up before. The last thing I want is lubed tuning nuts working themselves loose but you are right--overly tight nuts do have the tendency to jerk past the micro-tune spot you were shooting for. I'd also like to see a suggestion. (If the suggestion is 'live with it', well, that's what I've been doing. OK.) |
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Joey Aguilera
From:
Whittier, California, USA
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 10:29 am
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| A couple of times while I was tuning a tuning nut has popped off. Is that signs that I need to have 'em replaced or is this normal. The guitar had no tuning issues when I placed it back. |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 10:41 am
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Could be that you don't have them threaded on the rod deeply enough. The solution in that case is to give them a few more turns and then compensate by either reducing your pedal/lever travel or changing the hole at the changer or the bell crank to alter the leverage.
Or yes, the nylon nut could be worn.
--one symptom of a worn nut is simply that you can tighten it and raise the pitch and then *boing* it drops back in pitch as the worn threading loses its grip on the rod. [This message was edited by Jon Light on 07 November 2004 at 10:42 AM.] |
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Chris Lasher
From:
Blacksburg, VA
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 10:48 am
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Does anyone make these tuning nuts out of Delrin? From what I know about the material, it is low-friction but very tough. Would it make a more suitable plastic material from which to construct these?
James, maybe try GraphitAll, available from René Martinez at http://www.texasguitarwhiz.com . |
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Marc Weller
From:
Upland, Ca. 91784
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Posted 7 Nov 2004 12:20 pm
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Chris,
I believe the nuts are intended to bind on the threaded rod so they don't back out. You gearheads will recognize this as the concept behind rocker arm nuts on an automobile. They are slightly non-concentric so they bind on the rocker arm stud and stay put after adjustment. Delrin and graphite are low friction materials and probably wouldn't be a good choice for this application.
MW
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 8 Nov 2004 9:57 pm
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| Guys, for a quick fix for loose tuners, get some of the plumbers nylon tape. Wrap the thread on the changer rod one time and replace the tuner. Voila, tight again. |
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Terry Sneed
From:
Arkansas,
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Posted 9 Nov 2004 6:47 am
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Jim Bob, teflon tape?
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 9 Nov 2004 8:39 am
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| There be two (2) diameters to those tuning nuts, make sure you got the right sized nuts for yer pull rods. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 9 Nov 2004 11:09 am
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Another quick fix that may work is to simply turn the tuner around and thread it on from the other end.
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Down On The Rio Grande
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Chris Lasher
From:
Blacksburg, VA
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 2:40 pm
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| Marc, my apologies. I can see how low-friction would be a big mistake. Oops! |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 11 Nov 2004 7:32 pm
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| For Terry Sneed. Right, I meant to say the Teflon tape. It works really well. Hope this helps |
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