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Topic: Old Pics of Emmons and Day |
Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 11:27 am |
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Here are two pictures that I got from a YouTube Ray Price song. Thanks to Jimmy Peppers for identifying some of the musicians in the pictures.
The first picture is Ray Price with Emmons, Pete Wade on lead guitar and Shorty Lavender on Fiddle. The Bass player is unknown.
The second picture is Ray Price along with Jimmy Day and a young Willie Nelson to the right of Ray in the picture.
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Craig A Davidson
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Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 1:40 pm
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| Pete Wade is next to Willie in the second picture. I think that is Steve Bess behind Ray and Darrell McCall between Jimmy and Ray. I might be wrong but then again I might be right. |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 2:13 pm
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Here's some improved copies. I used Photoshop on the outdoors picture. Doesn't look like McCall between Jimmy and Ray to me. Steve Bess may be correct in the rear. Yeah, I think that is Pete Wade far right.
The bandstand pic below is my own improved copy. I have it noted as left to right: Buddy Emmons, Charlie Harris, Ray, Shorty Lavender, with Pete Burke on bass. You can read "Charlie Harris" on the guitar.
I don't know any more about Burke. He's supposedly from Houston but he's clearly not the same Pete Burke who played piano around Houston in the 40s.
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 6 Mar 2015 8:54 pm
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https://www.facebook.com/pages/Pete-Burke/122626857785762?sk=info&tab=page_info
Pete Burke mystery solved.
The Pete Burke in the picture is the son of the 1940s piano player Pete Burke. The link above is to the Facebook page of the bass player's son. Needless to say, his name is Pete Burke.
From the above link:
"I started playing music professionally in 1973 but music has been my life since I was five years old. My mother would take me to the old Hay Barn Opry in Shepard Texas to see my grandfather Pete Burke Sr play his Piano with some of Nashville's recording artists like Jean Shepard and Gordon Terry.
My dad played the old stand up Bass with Willie Nelson, Hank Thompson and he was one of the original Cherokee Cowboys with Ray Price in the 60's." |
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Eric Philippsen
From:
Central Florida USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2015 4:53 am
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| Ya' gotta love the stage clothes that were worn back then. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2015 9:57 am
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| Eric Philippsen wrote: |
| Ya' gotta love the stage clothes that were worn back then. |
Yes, ideal for cold climate such as Texas. |
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Tony Glassman
From:
The Great Northwest
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Posted 7 Mar 2015 11:28 am
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The picture seems so ancient, but it looks like Buddy is playing an Emmons p/p D-10. Was it taken in the early- mid 60's?
Last edited by Tony Glassman on 7 Mar 2015 3:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Mark Carlisle
From:
Springville CA
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Posted 7 Mar 2015 2:06 pm
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| That's a crazy guitar Ray Price is playing. Looks like a L-5 cutaway with a round sound hole. Inlays say L-5, his arm is over the tailpiece. It must have been a custom order with round sound hole vs. F-holes. Any one know anything about it-a rare bird. |
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Craig A Davidson
From:
Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA
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Posted 7 Mar 2015 2:45 pm
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| It makes sense that it isn't McCall in the picture I guess since Willie and Darrell both played bass for Price. Maybe Buddy Spicher? About the guitar of Rays'. I once read that it was more of a prop and that it had no tone. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 7 Mar 2015 2:46 pm
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| Mark Carlisle wrote: |
| That's a crazy guitar Ray Price is playing. Looks like a L-5 cutaway with a round sound hole. Inlays say L-5, his arm is over the tailpiece. It must have been a custom order with round sound hole vs. F-holes. Any one know anything about it-a rare bird. |
It's a model Gibson designed for George Gobel. The senior members of the Forum may remember George as a popular comedian of the 50s. There weren't many made because they were thin body arch tops and didn't have much tone or volume, but looked real cool.
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Mark Carlisle
From:
Springville CA
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Posted 7 Mar 2015 3:03 pm
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| Yes, I think those were called the L-5 CT (cutaway thinline) and most were cherry finish. Low production numbers for sure and now fetching big bucks in the vintage guitar market. I read somewhere that George Globel requested a thinner guitar from Gibson as he was a person of shorter dimensions. I know of a L-5CT on the market and asking is around 19K. Correct-not much acoustic tone even though a carved archtop like a regular L-5. |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 8 Mar 2015 9:45 am
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| This guitar has been discussed here before. If I knew how to find anything on the frustrating SGF search engine I'd post it. |
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Mark Carlisle
From:
Springville CA
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Posted 8 Mar 2015 9:59 am
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| I will do a search also. I guess the real interest was the round sounhole. I've had the pleasure of playing a L-5CT with the f-holes that are standard on that model. It had the so called McCarty pickguard installed, so was able to be plugged in. It was not very loud acoustically. Usually oval or round soundhole archtops are a special order from any builder due to bracing issues, and just wondered about this specific guitar that RP was playing in the photo-where did it end up? |
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Barry Blackwood
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Mark Carlisle
From:
Springville CA
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Posted 8 Mar 2015 10:23 am
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I honestly wasn't trying to hijack this thread, however another poster asked about the D-10 Emmons being played by the MAN himself, so don't feel too bad about my question.
Anyway-cool, way cool guitar. No pickup visible, so no wonder no tone out of it. It does have the pointed peak at the end of the fretboard, which says L-5, appears to have the "torch" L-5 inlay on the peghead and fretboard inlays of a L-5.
My guess is it would be "Priceless" in todays vintage market, no matter what it sounds like. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 10 Mar 2015 12:35 am
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| Fiddle player on the bandstand photo is Red Hayes. In the other photo, it's Buddy Spicher next to Jimmy Day. Steve Bess is behind Willie. I'm pretty sure the drummer in the bandstand photo is Johnny Bush. |
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Mitch Drumm
From:
Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 10 Mar 2015 2:11 am
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| Jussi Huhtakangas wrote: |
| Fiddle player on the bandstand photo is Red Hayes. In the other photo, it's Buddy Spicher next to Jimmy Day. Steve Bess is behind Willie. I'm pretty sure the drummer in the bandstand photo is Johnny Bush. |
You're absolutely right, Jussi; don't know where I got the idea it was Shorty Lavender.
Here's a better pic of Charlie Harris and that guitar, with Red Hayes.
Looks like it was taken at the same venue as the bandstand picture higher up--maybe at the same gig? That's probably Pete Burke at the far right in the white shirt, with the stand-up bass.
How many Cherokee Cowboy pictures are there with an acoustic bass?
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Mike Sweeney
From:
Nashville,TN,USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2015 9:44 am
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The fellow in the second picture that was thought to be Darrel McCall is Buddy Spicher.
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Mike Sweeney
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Nashville,TN,USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2015 9:47 am
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The drummer is either Johnny Bush or Jan Curtis.
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 10 Mar 2015 3:09 pm
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| Mike Sweeney wrote: |
The drummer is either
Johnny Bush or Jan Curtis. |
Steve Bess.
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2015 3:57 pm
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Here is a rare photo of Ray Price and Buddy Emmons. Ray Price playing Number 2.
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 10 Mar 2015 5:39 pm
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And this one too of Number 2.
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