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Topic: Best years of the Buds |
Richard Tipple
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Posted 5 May 2004 6:27 pm |
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Before I purchased my Bud Pro I , I read everything I could about the Sho Bud history and talked to many pros about the Bud line of guitars,,,good & bad.
Im wondering what were the best years ,,in your opinion,,were the best years for Sho Buds.
From what I could gather from many,, the round front,wide pedal & tear drop knees were the most desired .
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Ricky Davis
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Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 5 May 2004 7:06 pm
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WEll you would have to be more specific...as in "Best years for sound" or "Best years for Mechanics" or "Best years for looks"??? As all three of the categories don't neccessarily lump together as a all in one best years..IMO.
But in my opinion of the best All around Shobud to where the sound is awesome and the playability and mechanics were very obtainably fine and the looks were Purty....would be "drum roll please"....  
First Year Production of the Sho~Bud Pro~II
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Jerry Clardy
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El Paso, Texas, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 5 May 2004 9:11 pm
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Bob Watson
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Champaign, Illinois, U.S.
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Posted 5 May 2004 11:21 pm
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| I am not an expert about the history of Sho-Bud pedal steels, but from what I know I have to agree with Ricky. Gary Morse plays the early Pro ll's, the ones that you have to tune the pedals with an allen wrench. His tone is always consistantly great. Ricky, approximatley what year were these guitars? |
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Larry Robbins
From:
Fort Edward, New York
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Posted 6 May 2004 12:59 am
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My Pro II is a 73 and GOT TO LOVE IT!
Stays in tune,sounds sweet and sure looks
purty(IMHO) |
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Joey Ace
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Jerry Clardy
From:
El Paso, Texas, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 6 May 2004 4:16 am
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| Thanks, Joey. What a nice axe! |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 6 May 2004 6:39 am
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| I think Bobbe Seymour once said he thought the early Pro III (mid '70s?) was the best all around - good looks, good sound, good modern mechanics. |
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Bill Terry
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Bastrop, TX
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Posted 6 May 2004 7:06 am
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The '73 LDG I just bought has to be one of the best sounding guitars I've ever played. It's the one Ricky posted about a few days ago, same changer as the early Pro IIs I guess, rack and Barrel tuning with bellcranks rather than the rack?
I've played a couple of Pro IIs from the same period with the same changer/tuning setup that were also really good. Is it that changer, or just the 'way they were'?
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Richard Tipple
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 6 May 2004 7:48 am
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I guess I should add a little to my question as Ricky asked,,
Im wondering what in your opinion was the best years of the Bud as far as, Tone, Hardware and Looks go.
My 72 Pro I, red , round front, wide pedal, split coil PU, is a dream to play ,with an awesome tone. To me it is the best of the Buds
But ya know how opinions are,,,,everyone has one (\) |
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Ricky Davis
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Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 6 May 2004 8:50 am
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Richard my opinion; your round front Shobud S-10 IS the most awesome.
Joey that is the single raise/single lower fingers with infinite raise and lower....>how ever many barrels you have down the rod on any given string...you can raise or lower a string as many times as you want.
These first year Pro II's with the metal allen head tuners with barrel tuners behind two hole pullers(bell cranks) came out in that 72-73 era....My FAV.
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Roger Shackelton
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MINNESOTA (deceased)
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Posted 6 May 2004 9:05 am
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Which Model Sho-Bud S-10 is or was at the Country Music Hall of Fame? I saw it there for the first time in 1969.
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 6 May 2004 1:08 pm
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| I have what looks to be an early Pro III with the 'square' top. It has the wide pedals, tear drop levers, and small windows for the nylon tuning nuts in the changer end plate. What year would that be? 1976? |
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Gary Preston
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Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 6 May 2004 5:39 pm
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| Ricky , I have a ''Pro-II that i bought new in 1977 . Does this qualify for one of the good ones ??? It has the square edges on it . By the way i changed out the ''mild steel ''rods at the changer and at the nut with ''304 '' stainless steel and this made the sound so much brighter and cleaner . I know that this may not make much sense but i have the proof here in my music room . I also put a new set of ''Jagwire '' stainless steel strings on it and that made it sound even better . Two thumbs up to the Jagwire string company . These strings are great . Thanks , Gary . |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 6 May 2004 11:39 pm
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Roger those were called a Sho~Bud Single-10 Professional...
Leslie; that sounds about right.
Gary you have a "Pro~II Custom"....dang good ShoBud if you ask me as that's the exact one I'm playing right now that Dick Miller(rest his soul) did up special for Big Jim Murphy.
Ricky
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D Schubert
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Columbia, MO, USA
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Posted 7 May 2004 4:35 am
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Ricky said...the single raise/single lower fingers with infinite raise and lower....how ever many barrels you have down the rod on any given string...you can raise or lower a string as many times as you want. These first year Pro II's with the metal allen head tuners with barrel tuners behind two hole pullers(bell cranks) came out in that 72-73 era.
I'm slow to catch on sometimes -- can somebody post a pic of this particular undercarriage?
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Bill Terry
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Bastrop, TX
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 7 May 2004 9:20 am
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D Schubert
From:
Columbia, MO, USA
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Posted 7 May 2004 9:34 am
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| Thanks for the photos! What a great neighborhood this is! Ricky, the D-10 in the photo looks like the one I got from Bobbe Seymour last year. I thought I'd chosen well, and you've just reinforced it. |
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Paul Warnik
From:
Illinois,USA
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 7 May 2004 3:57 pm
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| Thanks Ricky . I also think this is a great pedal steel . It's a little heavy but a great axe . It still plays like a new one . I dont know why someone does'nt keep on building these guitars . Thanks again . Regards,,,Gary . |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 8 May 2004 12:25 pm
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Paul none of the Pro~II's ever had Racks and Barrels....just the very first pro II's had barrels behind two hole pullers like the one in the picture above.
Then the Pro~II went to a double raise/single lower finger with fixed rods on the pullers and short nylon tuners and I believe that's the one your looking for eh?? And all those had round fronts...Then Pro II "Custom" came out and that's the square front body with double raise double lower and triple/double and that's the one you had that was destroyed eh?? That is a shame.....but keep looking.
Gary; I stay in great shape and work out every day....so no guitar is too heavy in my book and that lets me play the greatest steel guitars in the world without them being too heavy...ah.ha....>so if a guitar is too heavy.....then lets all get in the gym and get in shape so we can play these babies....>so get on it.
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(see Forum thread on "Destruction of Older Steels for story) I'd like to have a Pro-II D-10 like that now with double raise and single lower short nylon tuner type changer and undercarriage without the old "racks and barrels"