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Topic: Super Pro 2nd string 1/2 stop |
Joe Savage
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St. Paul, MN
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Posted 4 Jan 2015 5:42 pm |
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Would someone be so kind as to post a photo of the
typical 1/2 stop set-up on a Super Pro? I took mine of a while back thinking I could just do a feel stop like my other guitars, but it doesn't work as well. Now I've forgotten how it's supposed to work.
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Jason Putnam
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2015 7:14 pm
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If you talking about the mechanical half-stop I think Lane Gray has a YouTube video showing and explaining on his YouTube channel. That may help you out.
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 Jan 2015 5:54 am
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Here's the video in question. The MSA uses parts that look a little different, but the principle is the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZoVqgtGk3o
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Lynn Stafford
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Ridgefield, WA USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2015 8:26 am Super Pro 2nd string 1/2 stop
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Hi Joe,
Here is a photo that shows the feel-stop device on a Super Pro that once belonged to me, and now belongs to Forumite John Ely. I recently set it up for him and took these photos afterward.
Here you can see where the brass swivel will make contact with the end of the tuning barrel (when the D note is reached and the compression spring then provides the resistance needed).
You can see how I rodded strings 2 and 9 to time the drops to coincide with the feel-stop and provide a measure of redundancy.
Please feel free to email me if you need any more help getting things set up.
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 5 Jan 2015 9:35 am
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Is there any way of achieving some sort of feel on the way back - if you want to start on C# and come up to D reliably?
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Lane Gray
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Topeka, KS
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Posted 5 Jan 2015 9:48 am
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Not really. I've heard of some sort of detent latch, but it doesn't work so great. But you CAN, over time, develop the knack of stopping real quick when you get to the half-stop o the way back. I recommend just doing that.
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2015 10:00 am
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
| Is there any way of achieving some sort of feel on the way back - if you want to start on C# and come up to D reliably? |
On a Sho Bud or any all-pull guitar, I think there is no royal road to changing that string from C# to D. (meaning you just have to practice and don't do it when the red light is on)
But it can be done on the Emmons push-pull. I even have it on 2 strings at once and have been enjoying this guitar a lot lately:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tlXL6eYaAQ |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 6 Jan 2015 9:45 am
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| Lane Gray wrote: |
| I've heard of some sort of detent latch, but it doesn't work so great. |
Well, there's my next engineering challenge! On my homemade uni 12, the RKR lowers the Es, then it goes on to lower 8 to D (in place of a P6 on the floor). This is musically good, but there's no feel on the way back although I can use the F lever (LKR) to return it. Don't want to necessarily do that all the time though.
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Joe Savage
From:
St. Paul, MN
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Posted 6 Jan 2015 12:37 pm
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| Thanks y'all. Got it back on. The picture was all I needed. Appreciate it.. |
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Hans Holzherr
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Münchenbuchsee, Switzerland
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Posted 7 Jan 2015 11:23 pm
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| Is there any way of achieving some sort of feel on the way back - if you want to start on C# and come up to D reliably? |
Yes, there are two mechanical half stops made in Europe that make the D feelable on returning from the C#: Schild and WBS. I have no experience with the WBS half stop, but the one that Schild makes works well. They were described in an earlier thread which I can't find right now. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 8 Jan 2015 2:12 am
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Thank you, Hans - I shall see what I can find out.
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