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Ben Orgil


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2014 12:00 pm    
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I'm trying to learn some basics and found this article:
http://www.jazzguitar.be/jazz_chord_progressionsd.html?utm_expid=3878535-7.v_po4ZkvTVG0aTMcAOKArg.3&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

How would you play the following chords: Dm7 G7 Cmaj7 C6 on c6th? Just a chord for each bar. I used this chord generator, but it seems like whenever I play a minor 7th in the context of a triad or double stop it just sounds wrong.

http://www.hawaiiansteel.com/chordlocator/generic.php
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2014 12:21 pm    
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C6 work very well for diatonic chord change like ii-V-I and I-vi-ii-V-I.

The easier way I think of to play this chords is


---Dm7--G7-Cmaj7-C6
E---5---------------
C---5----5----7---12
A---5----5----7---12
G---5---------7---12
E--------5----7---12
C-------------------
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2014 12:29 pm    
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If you play in an old school swing style with all dominant chord its easier

I-VI-II-V-I

---C7--A7--D7--G7--C7
E-------0----------
C--0---------2---2---0
A-------0---------2----
G--0----0----2-------0
E--0----------2---1--0
C--------------------
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Jack Gentle Jr

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2014 2:25 pm    
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I use John Ely's chord finder a lot.

For: Dm7 G7 Cmaj7 C6

Maybe this

E |--5--10---|--7-------||
C |--5-------|--7--12---||
A |--5--10---|--7--12---||
G |--5--10---|-----12---||
E |----------|-----12---||
C |----------|----------||


or

E |--5--10---|--12------||
C |--5-------|--11-12---||
A |--5--10---|--10-12---||
G |--5--10---|-----12---||
E |----------|-----12---||
C |----------|----------||

or for triads only as:

E |--5--10---|--12------||
C |--5-------|--11-12---||
A |--5--10---|--10-12---||
G |-----10---|-----12---||
E |----------|----------||
C |----------|----------||
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 28 Oct 2014 5:05 am    
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The minor chord slant is fun and I like to use it in a chord melodie, just like Jerry Byrd used it as a substitution. For example you play an F chord at the 5 fret with the first 3 strings and than you slide too an Cm so you use the v7 substitution, you can also slid up to the Dm for the vi7 substitution.

I avoid staying on this chord form too long because its very hard to have it in tune. I use it live but never on studio.
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Jean-Sebastien Gauthier


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Quebec, Canada
Post  Posted 28 Oct 2014 5:08 am    
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2 note chord are very handy for minor chord, I use the 6th interval with the root on first string a lot.

For example for a Em use the first string (E) fourth (G) open.
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Jack Gentle Jr

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 28 Oct 2014 5:15 am    
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One problem I have using chord finders, incomplete chords, and chord substitutions:

Although a finder might indicate that

---7---
---7---
---7---

or
---12---
---11---
---10---

can be used as Cmaj7, in the context of how it is used in my post above, it functions as G7 leading into the home chord C.
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Mike Neer


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NJ
Post  Posted 28 Oct 2014 7:03 am    
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I wish I had time to spend on this topic today, but maybe I will post more about it later.

Anyway, to just play some form of a G triad or Dmin triad for the V7 (G7) is not really advancing the tune forward in a sense that it doesn't create much tension/resolution.

I would suggest using something like this (when the music tolerates it):

Tab:


Amin - Abmin - Emin
-----or-------
Dm9 - G7#5b9 - CM9

---12-----11------7---
---12-----11------7---
---12-----11------7---
----------------------
----------------------
----------------------


This is the most commonly used by steel players playing "jazzier" changes, such as Buddy Emmons.

Here's another:
Tab:

Dmin7 - Dbmin7 - Emin7
-----or-----
Dmin7 - G13b9b5 - CM9

---5-----4----------
---5-----4------7---
---5-----4------7---
---5-----4------7---
----------------7---
--------------------



I have a million others, if I could remember them all--that is the problem. Fortunately, I've started keeping notes.
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Ben Orgil


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Post  Posted 29 Oct 2014 12:25 pm    
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Thanks for the tips that really helps.
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