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Topic: C6/B6 Learning Approach: Chords vs. Passing Notes |
Tom Gorr
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Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 8 Oct 2013 9:44 am |
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I'm trying to get to a more foundational understanding of C6/B6 (I play a U12), and this PSG stuff isn't completely evident without a whole lot of detailed pen and paper style academic work looking at all the root and partial chords that can be played with any specific pedal/lever combination...and on top of that, there is too much to remember anyways, so instincts and muscle memory simply need to flow from experience to automatically execute the music that's in our head....(correct me if I'm wrong on this...)
It occurred to me this morning that there's probably a beginning level understanding of the pedals and levers that divides pedal/lever combinations into two categories:
1) Pedal/Lever combinations that are used to develop specific (and regularly played) chord voicings,
2) Pedals and levers that are engaged "overtop" of that open or 'constructed' chord to 'regularly' move a melodic line or passing note within that chord voicing.
I realize this is probably 'normal learning stuff' and its deep enough to warrant complete books on the matter.....but, I'm, hoping that if there were enough contributers each laying out a couple of the "main moves" that they see in C6/B6 divided into these main two groups then we newbie's could gain our skill as the thread grows! Playing it, hearing it, and practicing it enough to turn it into instinct.
PS...I'm familiar with chord naming conventions..eg. IMaj7 etc. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 8 Oct 2013 11:00 am
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Jeff Newman has a Uni course that deals with the 6th side only. starts as slow blues 3 chord simple and speeds up along the way .. very good.
Here's a basic starter
With Es lowered
6th pedal makes a 4 chord or 4-7th depending on grip.
5th pedal gives a 7th chord back 2 frets.
5 and 6 together make a Diminished.
6-7 together make an Aug.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Ulrich Sinn
From:
California, USA
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Posted 8 Oct 2013 11:06 am
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I've also been working with Jeff Newman's Universal E9 B6 course.
Initially it seemed like a rather slim volume, dealing with P6, P5 and P6 + P5.
But the more time I spend with it the more the volume seems to swell. And the appreciation for his phrasing grows every time I sit down with it. |
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Lane Gray
From:
Topeka, KS
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Posted 8 Oct 2013 3:21 pm
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P5 gives, at the nut, a C#9 chord, and when (not if: too handy a change to ignore) combined with P7, a C#13 chord.
P6 gives an E7, and an F#7 when combined with P7 (or if you look at it another way, an E13th with #11 on string 6).
P8 (which some move to P4 on a Uni) gives you a G#7 (with #9 on string 4)
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2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
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