Emmons 6 pedal s-10

Carl Mesrobian · From: Salem, Massachusetts, USA

Did Emmons ever make an S-10 with 6 pedals and 2 knees??
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Lynn Stafford · From: Ridgefield, WA USA

chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

my first good steel was a black emmons s10 6 pedals, 2 knees...decal logo. changed it to 4 pedals 4 knees.

i guess i've been tinkering with steels as long as i've been playing them.

Jerome Hawkes · From: Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA

most of them i believe are '66 "bolt ons" - i had one originally 6 pedals - i dont know about the org knees.
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chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

mine was a cut tail.

Mike Cass · Posted 28 Aug 2012 12:35 pm

If you will look in pretty much any 60's-early 70's Emmons catalouge you will find the S-10 guitar listed with 6 pedals as standard. Knees were not added until mid-70's when the pedals were decreased to 3. Imo, any S-10 six pedal guitar w/2 or more knees was either ordered that way, or the were added after-market.

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Carl Mesrobian · From: Salem, Massachusetts, USA

What was the copedent?
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chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

that's interesting, mike. i can't remember now...long ago... about '71 , and i assumed it was used...though now i don't know. i added knees and used the two last pedal crossrods for the knees. maybe i added all 4 knee levers. compared to the no name steel i had before it, this was super modern to me and i loved it. it was at a music store in sac and he wanted $600 , but he gave me $300 off for the trade in!

CrowBear Schmitt · From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

All original : 6 pedals & 2 levers -was it originally C6 ?

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=230129

Mike Cass · Posted 29 Aug 2012 1:02 am

Chris Ivey,

That was a great deal you got there!

Any info on Emmons pedal steel guitars that I have given out or may feel compelled to rattle off in the future is based on their catalouges, my personal experience of being around Emmons dealerships in my hometown(Mpls.)and seeing their inventory as it arrived from NC., as well as my long-standing relationship w/the Emmons Guitar Company thru most of its incarnations, that as a player and an Emmons Factory Authorized Sales & Repair Station, etc., not to mention invaluable first hand info given to me by Buddy Emmons and Ron Lashley, Sr & Jr.
Over the years I have attempted to pass on my knowledge to folks like Paul Warnik and Chris Lucker in hopes that it would then be shared with others to further an understanding and chronology of the development of the Emmons products for those so interested, and to dispell many of the innaccuracies surrounding the evolution of the Emmons Guitar. Buddy Emmons was way ahead of his time in both the design and functionality features which he built into the Emmons guitar, features which today are pretty well taken for granted as industry standard, but thats old news.

Im aware that some players did in fact use some of the extra pedal assemblies to add knee levers as you did. Generally though, the S-10 was a 6 pedal, no knee lever guitar, as advertised.
I always thought that it would make a great C6 instrument like the one shown above, a nice example of a mid-70's S-10.

MC

chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

and i appreciate your knowledge and expertise, mike. thanks!

Brendan Mitchell · From: Melbourne Australia

My S10 came to me with 6&2 .It is from the early 70's and looks original but the levers could have been added later I suppose .

Eugene Cole · From: near Washington Grove, MD, USA

chris ivey · From: california (deceased)

Larry Moore · From: Hampton, Ga. USA

Here is my S-10 PP It came with 6 pedals no levers.
Orginal PU with Decal logo on front apron
I had it converted into 3-4 Mr Charlie Ward did the rework for me just a few monthe before he passed away.
He had also told me the changer was the same as the C-6th on the D-10 PP.(the fingers are a little shorter than the E-9th changer)
Larry

Larry Moore · From: Hampton, Ga. USA

Here is my S-10 PP It came with 6 pedals no levers.
Orginal PU with Decal logo on front apron
I had it converted into 3-4 Mr Charlie Ward did the rework for me just a few months before he passed away.
He had also told me the changer was the same as the C-6th on the D-10 PP.(the fingers are a little shorter than the E-9th changer)
Larry

Carl Mesrobian · From: Salem, Massachusetts, USA

Tuning it as E9, I was wondering if there's a feasible way to set up pedals as E raise and E lower. Seems like the first pedal could be handy as E raise, then have pedals 2,3,4 be A,B,C, then have a Franklin pedal, and an E lower pedal; have the right knees do their thing on the 1st, 2nd,6th, and 7th strings.

Or should I bite the bullet and spring for 2 knee lever kits??
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Tony Davis · From: Brisbane, QLD, Australia

I bought my S10 S/N 1314 new in August 1974 from the dealer in Melbourne.
It came with 6 pedals and two knee levers for the right knee......one to lower the E's and one to lower 2nd string....E9 set up.
Has the raised Logo on it.
I built two more levers and added them to the left knee...raise the E's and raise the F#'s
Its been in the wings of light planes...fallen out of station waggons..done many road and air miles,
and requires very little maintenance.
Tony

Carl Mesrobian · From: Salem, Massachusetts, USA

Are you using all the pedals? If so, what copedant?
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Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

I didn't start playing until '71, and I remember looking at Emmons catalogs through the mid 70's and was always wondering why they didn't have knee levers on their standard guitars. The S10 was just 6 pedals and the D10 just 8 pedals. Of course, you could order them with added knee levers. That is one of the reasons I never bought an Emmons in my early years. You could get another brand with the right number of pedals and at least 2 levers for the same or less money. If you bought one during that time from a dealer and it had levers, I would imagine that the dealer had the forethought to order them from the factory that way, knowing the customer would want some knee levers.

I don't recall it being advertised as a C6th guitar. I would imagine the last 3 pedals had some of the knee lever changes on them.

Hopefully, Michael Lee Allen will see this. He probably has some of the old Emmons catalogs. He has an amazing collection of old brochures and catalogs.
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Carl Mesrobian · From: Salem, Massachusetts, USA

Here's the best I could figure out about my guitar copedent:

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Richard Argus · From: Perth, Western Australia,

I bought my S10 new in 1978; it is a '77 model. 2 knee levers and 4 pedals. Levers on right knee.
Richard

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