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Larry Bressington
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Nebraska
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 4:46 am |
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Apart from playing skill level, does anybody know how it's done at like CMA'S and other T.V show's alike...The 'Steel Tone' is always beyond and almost God like...Are they plugging straight into an amp and slapping an SM58 in front of it OR is there more to it!
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Larry Behm
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Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 7:24 am
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My guess would be an amp off stage and a great sound eng that loves steel.
Larry Behm
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 7:34 am
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I'd give most of the credit to the players, themselves.  Rarely do you hear "career steel players" with a bad tone, unless it's something recorded by amateurs using cheapo video gear. |
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Dave Grafe
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Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 9:51 am
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| Certainly all of the players you see are fairly well seasoned by the time they show up there, and they have long ago worked out "their" tone issues. You can bet that they are not stepping on each other or playing unnecessary notes that will muddy up the mix, and having musical space to play in is the mandatory first step to being heard well. There is also a lot of limiting going on in the production of the audio for television, which can help bring a signal to the front of the mix. Lastly, while I can't speak to having amps located off stage I suspect that Larry has it right in that the primary factor is an audio engineer that loves the steel guitar and knows how to do the job right. |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 10:08 am
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http://youtu.be/nEyzy85rRkw A good example of nice smooth tight tone!! Fessy straight into a Nash 400 amp?? Sounds a bit warmer than that. Great player too!!
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Allan Thompson
From:
Scotland.
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 10:30 am
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| Larry, The guitar on the clip is a JCH and the player looks like Nils Tuxen. |
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Paul E. Brennan
From:
Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 12:51 pm
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Malcolm McMaster
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Beith Ayrshire Scotland
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 1:05 pm
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Agree with Allan, Nils Tuxen.
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 3:33 pm
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Indeed that is a JCH , i thought fessy...I can't remember what JCH stands for, but they sound killer in the hands of Buck Reid also...I heard he builds them??
I wonder what amp Nil's uses!
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Malcolm McMaster
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Beith Ayrshire Scotland
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Posted 20 Aug 2012 9:49 pm
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JCH was built by Jimmy Crawford in conjunction with John Hughey, sadly no longer in production.
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Pit Lenz
From:
Cologne, Germany
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Posted 21 Aug 2012 12:15 am
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| Larry Bressington wrote: |
| A good example of nice smooth tight tone!! Fessy straight into a Nash 400 amp?? Sounds a bit warmer than that. Great player too!! |
Larry, the steel player is Nils Tuxen from Denmark, #1 session steel player around. He DOES have a very tasty style and a great tone, very nice guy, too!
But this nice smooth tone was never created from a steel loving experienced sound engineer, the show was taped by mdr (mitteldeutscher rundfunk), formerly east german television! Worked with them, betcha that guy has NEVER seen a steel before!
Then, if you look closer, there are no drum mikes  and if you watch it till the end, the steel plays some notes that the steeler doesn`t.
Now compare the tape to the original record ( same licks and sound) and voilá:
what you heard was is the nice smooth tone of our fellow forumite Paul F. 
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Paul E. Brennan
From:
Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 21 Aug 2012 1:32 am
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Aha! I didn't realise that show was from Germany. (I suppose the G in the title was a clue!). I was wondering why Nils Tuxen would be travelling all the way to the US to for a show. Especially so when the band are clearly miming to a backing tape. The real give-away for me was the guy playing the red Strat with the hot rodded pickups and still managing to get a Telecaster tone!
I'm sure they're all fine musicians. I know for sure Nils is one the best steel players you'll ever hear. |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 21 Aug 2012 7:03 am
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Ahhhh.... Thank you my friend from Germany, wow, i never would have imagined that or guessed...I agree also, the Strat thing had me head scratching too, SO was Mark touring Germany without a band or am i missing something here...or was he touring with a German band and then they mimicked the T.V show??? Thanks again!
It look's like all the player mimicked their parts immaculately , very well done indeed!!
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