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Karen Sarkisian
From: Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 8:42 am
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changing strings the day before a gig, yay or nay ?? mine could use a change but worried about tuning issues. _________________ Emmons, Franklin, Mullen |
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 8:45 am
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Karen, this is just me, but I'd do it at least two days before. Hopefully others will chime in here with more experience on the subject. |
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Karen Sarkisian
From: Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 8:47 am
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yeah i'm leaning towards holding off. just replaced my 5th string tho because it broke, so the others are probably on their way out too. i dont want to break a string tomorrow, important gig. _________________ Emmons, Franklin, Mullen |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 8:55 am
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My personal opinion is that the day before is plenty.
I can usually have good luck even half an hour before a gig.
Change strings 1 at a time. Bring it up to pitch, tug on it with about 7 to 10 pounds of pressure ( About enough to lift a solid body electric guitar). Bring it back up to pitch. Repeat about 5 *. The string should be settled.
For your peace of mind, do this the day before a gig. Check it before you tear it down, and I bet it will be stable.
For the last 2 years, I have only had 30 hours in a row off my job. So I had no choice but to change and go _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Karen Sarkisian
From: Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 9:17 am
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ugh just tuned up old strings. may take my chances... in general how long do people wait in between sting changes ? i play a couple hours most days _________________ Emmons, Franklin, Mullen |
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Karen Sarkisian
From: Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 9:17 am
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ugh just tuned up old strings. may take my chances... in general how long do people wait in between sting changes ? i play a couple hours most days _________________ Emmons, Franklin, Mullen |
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Michael Robertson
From: Ventura, California. USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 9:18 am New strings
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Dealing with tuning issues a day before the gig is better than dealing with a string break on the gig.
Plus the sound of new strings the best. _________________ No Avatar only a picture of my Mentor. |
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Lane Gray
From: Topeka, KS
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 9:24 am
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When they sound dead, or when they break.
If you have an important gig tomorrow, get off the computer and change them now.
You'd play an important gig with dead wires? _________________ 2 pedal steels, a lapStrat, and an 8-string Dobro (and 3 ukes)
More amps than guitars, and not many effects |
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Karen Sarkisian
From: Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 16 Jun 2012 9:53 am
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word. signing off.... _________________ Emmons, Franklin, Mullen |
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Ned McIntosh
From: New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 2:26 am
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I'll get to a gig early enough to change strings 1 to 6 on my E9th neck an hour or so before playing. Stretch them a few times, bring them to pitch, play them a little, re-stretch, then bring to pitch and they are fine for the gig.
You just have to get all the stretch out, that's all. _________________ The steel guitar is a hard mistress. She will obsess you, bemuse and bewitch you. She will dash your hopes on what seems to be whim, only to tease you into renewing the relationship once more so she can do it to you all over again...and yet, if you somehow manage to touch her in that certain magic way, she will yield up a sound which has so much soul, raw emotion and heartfelt depth to it that she will pierce you to the very core of your being. |
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Bill Moore
From: Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 4:55 am
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I don't want to have to change a string at a gig. If you play a guitar regularly, I think you will eventually come to sense when the strings are nearing the breaking point. But it's usually only a couple of strings that will break. If I have a gig approaching, and I am pressed for time, I might only change a couple of strings, maybe just the 3rd and 5th, or maybe 3,4,5,6.
I have several guitars, I usually rotate playing them. Lately, I've been writing down when the strings were changed. I just write it on a calender. For example, on one guitar, I changed all the strings on May 30th, I played it at a gig on June 1st. I also played it on a gig on the 9th. In between, I played it at home, and also played a couple of the others at home. I broke the 5th string yesterday on that guitar. When I change them all will depend on when I am planning to use that guitar at a gig.
Sometimes I change them all on the morning of a gig day. But I would rather do a it day or two before. I stretch them, and play for a while. The wound strings take a little longer to settle in. I think it's mostly a matter of having an organized way of doing it, keep track of when they are changed, etc. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 5:38 am
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I don't like changing strings the day of a gig. I prefer a couple days to tweak out the stretch etc. Besides, I have occasionally gotten a few bad or dead strings in a set that had to be changed out.
It's a calculated decision. On the one hand, I usually like the strings that are already on there. Everything is tuned up and sounding good, but you hate to have one break at an inopportune time.
I have 2 guitars, so I'd say I change entire sets every 6 mos. or so with some of the plain strings in between. I took a tip from my friend Boogie Sherrard. He writes the date on the empty wrapper and leaves it in the case.
I guess several people, like Ned, don't find it as daunting a task.
Once I was at the Grand Ole Opry for the early show and I watched Weldon change entire sets right there on the Opry stage just before the show! Now that's confidence. |
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Doug Palmer
From: Greensboro, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 6:36 am string change
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I find it best to change the strings, bring them to pitch, play them for a few songs, retune them and let them settle over night. Then fine tune and adjust the next day. If you try to fine tune them as soon as you put them on you may have to do it again after they settle. BTW, I try to change my strings after 8 or 9 gigs. If you find yourself adjusting them often, it's time to change.
Doug _________________ Emmons D-10, ST-10,LD-10 III, NV-112,Fender Deluxe Reverb. Authorized wholesale dealer musicorp.com! |
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Lee Baucum
From: McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 6:47 am
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When I put a new set of strings on my guitar, I keep the paper "sleeve" that came with the strings. I write the date they were put on the guitar and keep it with my extra strings in my pack-a-seat. If I change out a few of the plain strings at a later date, I record that info on the sleeve, too. _________________ Lee, from South Texas - Down On The Rio Grande
There are only two options as I see it.
Either I'm right, or there is a sinister conspiracy to conceal the fact that I'm right.
Williams Keyless S-10, BMI S-10, Evans FET-500LV, Fender Steel King, 2 Roland Cube 80XL's,
Sarno FreeLoader, Goodrich Passive Volume Pedals, Vintage ACE Pack-A-Seat |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 8:52 am
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At least a day before if changing a whole set. I actually like to change them 2 days before and just get the open strings up to pitch, except the 3rd string, I leave that at F# so it will settle in and not break as soon as I get it to pitch (some string brands I have tried break too easily). The following day, i stretch them a little more, get the 3rd string to pitch, and tune the pedals/levers.
This seems to work best for me and I never have the problems on a gig with "new string de-tuning". _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 10:32 am
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OK b0b, you've talked me into it, or at least no later than Tuesday...... |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 17 Jun 2012 10:38 am
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Mondays are usually bad for me. That is my day to recover from the weekend gigs. Sometimes I don't even want to see my guitar on Monday. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Brendan Mitchell
From: Melbourne Australia
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Posted 18 Jun 2012 12:57 am
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I change mine regularly every 2 years , even if they don't need it . |
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Adam Sorber
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 18 Jun 2012 8:45 am
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My guitars usually "settle" in tune within 5 minutes of playing after changing strings. I always exercise all the pedals and knee levers real good after a string change. _________________ Adam Sorber
Sho Bud PROII custom D-10
Sho Bud PROII custom SD-10
Fender Super Twin Reverb
Fender Ultra-linear Twin Reverb |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 18 Jun 2012 10:02 am
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http://www.mullenguitars.com/guitar-tips.htm
Tip from the good folks at Mullen re: helping the strings to form to the rollers quickly. Also some other steel guitar tips for anyone interested.
BTW, your plain strings should tune up to pitch fairly easy using Adam's suggestion, if they're any good. Shouldn't be any breakage problem unless you tune it way above the desired pitch. I haven't seen any difference in tuning them up right away or waiting 'til they "settle in", which they won't do anyhow until you bring them up to pitch and stretch them out.
3rd strings are the hardest to get stretched out and stable, but they'll go up there if they're any good. Coming from someone who uses 12's for thirds on one guitar and 13's on another. Yes, 13's. |
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Whip Lashaway
From: Monterey, Tenn, USA
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Posted 18 Jun 2012 4:35 pm
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b0b, You're crackin me up! I have to wonder though about all these guitars and/or strings. When I was touring, I changed the strings after setting up for the show. I know stretching is a controversial topic but...I grab 4 strings next to each other and bring them to the middle and work my way across the neck and retune. After a couple of times, no retuning needed. I'm talking maybe a couple hours before a show at the most...no trouble. Couple of things, 1st, I play a Sierra, say what you will, my experience is they like to stay in tune. 2nd, I use even tension tuning system. I've talked about that before. Each gauge is selected to be at pitch when the pull is X pounds for each string. It works! My routine is to replace 1-6 when I start missing harmonics. Every 3rd time I change them, I change 7-12. Just my 2cents of what works for me. God Bless, Whip _________________ Whip Lashaway
Sierra E9/B6 12 string
Sierra E9/B6 14 string
Excel S12 8x9 blue
Excel S12 8x9 black |
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