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Geoff Cline


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Southwest France
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 1:36 pm    
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Messrs. Young & Keith...live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgUDJDbSwg0
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Mike Selecky


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BrookPark, Ohio
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 6:09 pm    
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Wow - thanks for that!
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Mickey Adams


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Bandera Texas
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 7:50 pm    
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who's steelin???
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 8:01 pm    
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Mickey, I think that's Ben Keith who played with Neil Young for many years. At least that's what the topic title infers.
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Marc Jenkins


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Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 9:59 pm    
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Love Neil and Ben! When Ben died recently, Mr Young said he wouldn't play with another steel player. Tender.
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Doug Beaumier


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Northampton, MA
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 10:18 pm    
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Ben with Faron Young and band, back in the day.


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Chris Tweed


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Cardiff, Wales, UK
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2012 11:31 pm    
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Very distinctive sound. I can't get over how low Ben Keith is sitting in relation to the height of the steel.
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Ray McCarthy

 

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New Hampshire, USA
Post  Posted 29 Mar 2012 2:18 am    
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Looks like he's sitting in a regular chair, about 4 inches lower than a steel seat.
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Geoff Cline


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Southwest France
Post  Posted 29 Mar 2012 6:21 pm    
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Mike Selecky wrote:
Wow - thanks for that!


You're SO welcome. Great players playing a great song. I LOVE Ben's playing here...just perfect.
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2012 12:28 am    
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Doug, that's not "Faron Young" and band. From left to right that's Ben, Roger Miller, Darrel McCall and Odell Martin on guitar.....JH in Va.
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David Mason


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Cambridge, MD, USA
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2012 1:58 am    
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Was it 11/8 time because Neil was into progressive rock, or because he was too high to count to 12 when he wrote it?
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Russ Tkac


Post  Posted 30 Mar 2012 4:40 am    
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My favorite. Smile

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Russ
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2012 4:47 am    
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Cool cadence for the solos. I wouldn't call it 11/8, though. More like alternating measures of 6/4 and 5/4.

Neil Young follows his muse wherever it leads him. Love him or hate him, you gotta respect an artist that does that. He's never been content to just play his greatest hits. There's always a next step.

And Ben Keith's steel was a major part of his sound for many years. A master of understatement, he was still a constant force playing steel guitar in a major rock act for several decades. There are only a handful of pedal steelers in the world with that distinction.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 30 Mar 2012 5:47 am    
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Definitely 11/8--the ride cymbal is playing the 1/8 notes. Think 12/8 rhythm--the 1/8 notes are played in a triplet pattern, same here. 4/4 on the verses.

Strange tune. Never been a big NY fan, but I like a good amount of his music in small doses.
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Geoff Cline


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Southwest France
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2012 2:57 pm    
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11/8 and 4/4 in the verses. One of NY's more eclectic tunes...but I love it.

Love him or not, hard to deny that he has fronted the greatest garage band of all time (Crazy Horse), written a huge number of excellent songs AND is as vital and on top of his game after 40+ years as he was back in the day!

And he's a great Dad to his kids and gives a lot back to the community.
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Bill Kellum

 

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Water Valley, MS
Post  Posted 30 Mar 2012 3:05 pm    
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New Crazy Horse record coming in June. All old americana tunes...properly named "Americana"...

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-to-release-new-album-americana-on-june-5th-20120319
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Jim Hoke

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 1 Apr 2012 2:21 pm    
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I'm taking this op to say that Neil Young is one of my favorite improvisors on guitar. This is because he's one of the actual few. This is because he's always MAKING UP TUNES and PLAYING THEM ON THE SPOT. This is because he was probably too lazy to learn a bunch of licks and tricks. Or maybe he didn't want to sound like everybody else. His solo on "I've Been Waiting For You" is a gem of a melody. He's not just filling 4, 8, or 16 bars with some sound bites and quotes, he's composing and playing it on the spot. They aren't always these good, and sometimes they really suck, but he's willing to take the chance. He's swingin' for the fence, musically, and he's fearless. He must not take himself too seriously, because he doesn't mind the occasional crash-and-burn. Sorry to harp on.....
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