The Maverick?

Eric Davidson · From: Kentucky, USA

I am looking for my first pedal steel and have my heart set on a Sho-Bud. I saw one on Bobbe Seymour's website and it says that its a maverick but it looks far better than any one Ive seen. I emailed to see if they still have it but havent heard back. I have heard a lot of folks say to stay away from the Mav and I dont want to get something that is going to make an already difficult instrument even more so. But are there Mavericks, such as this one, that are built better than others, say an earlier model? Any help would be much appreciated.

http://www.steelguitar.net/shobud1.html

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

If that's a Maverick, it's hard to add more knees (it can be done, but at a high difficulty level), and one knee will prove inadequate within months.

I don't know enough to be certain, but with that raised neck, I'd suspect it of being a 6139, which has more promise.

Think of a Maverick as a V-4 Saab. In the days of fuel-injected 4-stroke V-6s, only the determined throwback will be happy
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Bob Carlucci · From: Candor, New York, USA

That is a magnificent Maverick,, Nicest one I have ever seen.. Looks like it may have been modified, and brought to Pro I specs... I would talk to Bobbe about it.. If it has the original Maverick undercarriage you can get a much better steel for the same money.. The Maverick is a very liimited steel... In any case, find out about the one in the pic....Those are Sho Bud pro model changer and legs from what I can tell.. bob
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

Bobbe's website says "Maverick, 3&3"
for $1250.

If you want Bud tone, I see nothing wrong with it. I'd rather have two more knees,
but I can use bar slants to drop my Bs.
I withdraw my reservations.
If you want more knees later, you'll have options
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Eric Davidson · From: Kentucky, USA

Thanks! Hope he still has it. So does"3&3" mean that it has been modified or is a different model?

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

A stock Maverick not only had 3 pedals and 1 knee lever, its changer was not (practically) amenable to adding more.
A Maverick of 3&3 (pedals & knee levers) has had SOMEONE do some renovation.
And if Bobbe's selling it, you can trust it was either done right or had been made right.
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Jack Aldrich · From: Washington, USA

My first pedeal steel was an Emmons S10 with 3 pedals and 2 knee levers (one [RKL]to lower the E's to D#'s and the other [rkr] to lower the 2nd string). By the end of the first month, I was suffering from the lack of the 3rd knee lever (raises E to F, which, with the A pedal, gives the first inversion of the E chord at the 3rd fret). I soldiered on, until I got my S10 3/4 wood neck ShoBud, which I played professionally until I got my D10 in 1986. It's hard to do without the 3rd & 4th knees, imho. So, again imho, The Marverik and the MA Red Baron are not for someone who wants to gig. - Jack

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

True, but this Maverick has 3 knees.
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Tony Russell · From: North of England

There may well be three KLs but you need to know what they are doing. Essentially you need both E's to Eb, both E's to F and the second string lower. My guess is that the changer is a single raise/lower and can't cope with the 4th string having to raise to two different notes (F on a KL and F# on pedal "C"). I hope I'm wrong, but that is the usual problem on a "student" or budget model like a Maverick. Sad

Super looking guitar though, 'spect it sounds good too.

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

Tony, I've not bothered to call Bobbe to ask, but I would bet any Maverick modified to go 3 and 3 would have both Es going both to D# and E#. Ask Mr. Simmons; a pull-release changer can do all sorts of things once you free it from that coat hanger arrangement underneath a maverick
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Doug Rolfe · From: Indianapolis, IN

Just a thought. Since you are just starting, I'm not sure of what you may be getting in to regarding the Maverick. If it is an original, there are a lot of issues with it which become very frustrating as you progress with your playing. Today, if I were starting and know what I do, I would seriously look at a Stage one. It's under $1,000.00 brand new and has a lot more features as well as being much easier to maintain. Just a thought.

Dana Blodgett · From: California, USA

This looks to me like an early seventies Maverick that has been upgraded to something near a Model # 6139. First it looks to have been refinished. The pedal bar and pedals appear to be from an early "Pro" or 6139, most Mavericks pedals are set further in towards the center of the body, and the Maverick pedal bar had Maple inset into the pedal bar, this looks more like a "Pro".The changer appears to be from a 6139 also, notice the wood neck appears to have been cut and doesn't seem to match up evenly with the changer. I also do not see the back "deck" of the "Pro" model which makes me believe this is an upgraded Maverick. The end plates appear to have the "Black" paint removed also which the Maverick Had.
I had a '74 Sho-Bud Maverick and it was a "wrap around" wood changer, I also have a '73 Sho-Bud 6130/6140 "Pro", and it sure looks like a combination of both to me!
3&3 means three pedals and three knee levers. Mavericks had good tone and nice birdseye Maple in them, the biggest weakness IMHO was the under carriage was a li'l "iffy" and you're gonna want four knee levers at least to start.
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Leslie Ehrlich · From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada

When I decided to buy a PSG I did some research and I found out that it was best to get a used pro model rather than go with a student model.
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Rick Winfield · From: Pickin' beneath the Palmettos

Having owned a Maverick in the past, I must say:
A used PRO MSA, or Marlen will get you a lot further than a Maverick, which is an entry level PSG
You can find them,(MSA, Marlen) reasonably priced here, at times, on the forum.
You're gonna need at least 3 pedals and 4 levers.
Good luck in your quest
Rick

CrowBear Schmitt · From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France

unless you find a Mav like this one, just get yourself a modern day psg
student like the stage one or a good used pro model w: 4 levers

Mike Perlowin · From: Los Angeles CA

You need 4 knee levers. Period. 5 is even better. Three will be OK for the time being, but sooner or later you'll want at least one more.

And for $12.50, you can do a lot better. The Stage One, the legend (formerly the Carpsteel) and the Simmons all cost around $1,000 and all have 4 knee levers.

I've never seen a Simmons and cannot comment on them. But the Stage one and Legend are both are more than adequate for your purposes.

There are also some goods bargains on used pro steels in the classifieds.
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Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

What Mike Perlowin said. Unless you're hung up on and crave that Sho-Bud sound, the limitations of this guitar will drive you batty in a year or two.
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Eric Davidson · From: Kentucky, USA

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate the advice of people who have experience. I did find a sho-Bud and just waiting on it to be shipped to me and am super excited! Here is one of the pics the seller sent to me so I thought I would post to show what I bought. Its a 3&5 Pro custom 1. Thanks again, I really value the advice.

Lane Gray · From: Topeka, KS

Much better guitar. How much?
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