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Topic: HELP! Quick advice on a frypan purchase |
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 5:35 pm |
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I've got 14 hours or so to decide if I should buy this rickenbacher A22.
The seller wants 2K. it's serial# is 0100, supposedly 1935. No case, it's in my town so I went to check it out. Looks like it dried out in the desert, the horseshoes have little or no magnetism left, and the pot is almost completly stuck, as are the tuners. They turn, but feel like they'll break. With the old strings on, it sounds pretty good, but I didn't try to tune it.
I'd want to fix it up to playable, but not change it.
I'm not supposed to use WD-40 right?
Any advice would surely be appreciated!!  |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 6:07 pm
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I don't like it for $2000. $1500-1600 I could see.
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 6:40 pm
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Cheaper would be nice, but even with the added costs of possible repairs/upgrades, these are rare enuf to justify the price if you REALLY want one, especially if the wiring is unmolested and can be freed. This could be one of the better ones, you never know, and I'm actually suprised they go this cheap, no respect!
The tuner buttons/gears can possibly be salvaged, so leave them alone and in one piece. I believe SGFer Denny Turner has the tech info to save them, or make repros. |
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Doug Beaumier
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 6:54 pm
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You know, thats part of it...Anybody know how many were made? I don't think it's a '35 since it only has the one knob. And I've been looking for some time..Seems like the ones in better shape go for a lot more than 2K. It is cool though, much lighter than my JB frypan, Aiello or Sierra..
I was also just looking for the body, so I could put a new Lollar in there with new tuners, which I shouldn't do for this guitar.. 
Seller says he knows nothing about these, and aint budging |
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 7:44 pm
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| Does it have the gold headstock badge? That is of course the all-important, make'r-deal break'r Also, what kind/how much finish, is it a hollow or solid neck? |
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 7:52 pm
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My feelings about this sort of thing is that if I can get a personal holy grail of a guitar I don't worry about the money much. Lets say it costs you another $1,000 to put into proper shape. That is a total of $3000 for a real piece of history that you can play music on. There is nothing like feeling that visceral connection to something you deeply care about. Money comes and goes. To miss out on something like that because of $300 or $400 seems foolish if it is something that will bring you some happiness.
Plus the bragging rights alone have got to be worth something !
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George Keoki Lake
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Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 9:26 pm
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Your 14 hours have probably expired by now. The guitar looks to be in about the same condition as mine except for the fact this one is older. `If it's still available,
I would be inclined to purchase it ! Has the large horseshoe magnet which mine does not have. |
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Former Member
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Posted 5 Apr 2011 9:33 pm
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Thanks alot for the replies!!
I still have until 3 pm tomorrow, LOOK what just popped up...
Link to auction on eBay.
What happened to this poor thing?!? |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 6 Apr 2011 5:27 am
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It looks better than I thought from your description. I think I'd go for it. You want to change the potentiometer anyway.
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Posted 6 Apr 2011 10:05 am
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Again, Thanks for all the input!---What a great forum and resource!!
I'm that dude with 4 highly desirable lap steels already
JB/shot long neck
excel table steel
Aiello #11
sierra w/Aiello MRI
AND I CAN BARELY PLAY!!! I spend more time on Ebay than practicing... 
My wife has developed this hiss in her voice when I mention another purchase 
So, I'm letting this go by.
(I'm actually more interested in this beat up ol' body that just came up.) If anyone has just the body they'd be willing to part with, please let me know.. |
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Frank James Pracher
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Michigan, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2011 10:42 am
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My wife has developed this hiss in her voice when I mention another purchase |
Does she have a sister that lives in MI? This sounds very familiar
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2011 12:00 pm
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| Both of those pans should have been snagged by now! |
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Bill Creller
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Saginaw, Michigan, USA (deceased)
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Posted 6 Apr 2011 2:30 pm
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The single (volume) knob is normal. Even the first bakelites (1935) had only a volume control. My frypan has only a volume control. And serial numbers don't mean much on old Ricks.
Some frypans sound really great, and some are so-so.
My wife doesn't mind me buying a guitar. But she doesn't like to hear me talk about selling all of them and getting another hobby ! |
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S.M. Johnson
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Oregon, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2011 7:53 pm An original Ric Frypan for similar price
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I've heard thro' the grapevine that one of your long-time, truly dedicated steel guitar players is offering his Ric Frypan for sale. He's always taken special care of his g'tars and only the aging process has pushed him to a position of disposing of his cherrished guitars.
His is a one knob Frypan......and is being offered at about the same price you've mentioned here however, his is in great condition, ready to play with no repairs required nor anything that might raise questions.
The price is right! Money talks. |
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George Majoros
From:
Vancouver, B.C.
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Posted 6 Apr 2011 8:16 pm
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| I would like to buy this frypan, email sent |
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J D Sauser
From:
Wellington, Florida
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Posted 10 Apr 2011 5:41 am
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I think, I have seen it on ebay last week.
Look, A22's are excellent guitars. They can't but sound great and they don't break as easily as Bakelite guitars.
Older ones may need a new cap at the volume control (I just temporarily by-pass the volume control on mine), new strings and maybe the horse shoe magnets re-magnetized and you're ready to go.
Many, if not all Rickenbacher Frypans were lacquered, some with a clear (yellowing) coat others with some "hammer finish". On most originals these finishes are worn badly which makes'em look "rough"... yet, as long they are in one piece, there is really no issue with that.
If I remember right, that would about be the description which fits the #0100 I saw on e-bay. This one even had the original volume knob (which can't be found if it's not there).
The seller (from what else he was selling, apparently an estate sales dealer) did some history research and seems to think that the instrument, being the first commercially produced stringed instrument, would have a lot of "historic"-value. We all know, that that fact has long been overlooked... it's not some 50's Fender... and for what ever reason, collectors around the world don't seem to attribute much value to that historical fact. So maybe, this is what you should try to make your seller realize.
The global economy crisis has had about the same effect on "collectable" steel guitars as it has had on real estate. That Frypan MAY have hit the 3-to-4 thousand mark 5 years ago. Not today.
I got my first in the late 90's for 1200.oo.
While I think that 2000.oo MAY be fair, you'd be safer from regrets at 1500.oo.
... J-D.
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 10 Apr 2011 12:35 pm
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| J D Sauser wrote: |
| I got my first in the late 90's for 1200.oo. |
Me too, only I waited for the ebay no-sale to rest a week then offered $800 and got a great '38 A22 hollow neck (and it's case) because it'd been refin'd blue and nobody wanted it, except me. Boy, do I love blue fry pans and too choosy people! |
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Steven Cummings
From:
Texas
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Posted 12 Apr 2011 2:48 am
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Mine isn't that old but man do I love the tone. Just something about A22's I guess that makes em special.
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