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Sherman Willden


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Post  Posted 22 Oct 2010 10:35 am    
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I began by playing on strings 456 the following which fits the pattern: fret 1 (M) fret 1bc (m) fret 3bc (m) fret 7 (M) fret 8 (M) fret 8bc (m) fret 11f (dim) fret 13 (M)

Then I was fooling around and did this: fret 1 (M) fret 3a (m) fret 4af (M) fret 6a (m) fret 8 (M) fret 10a (m) fret 11f (dim) fret 13

So what kind of scale is the last one? Or is it a scale? It seems to work but I haven't played it against anything yet.
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Bo Legg


Post  Posted 22 Oct 2010 4:36 pm    
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Sherman Willden


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Post  Posted 23 Oct 2010 4:58 am    
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Thank you, Bo. My wife tells me I do have a hearing problem so maybe I just can't hear the Bb.
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Bo Legg


Post  Posted 23 Oct 2010 6:01 am    
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I don't believe you have a learning problem. Looks like your on the right track just keep using your ear.

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Franklin

 

Post  Posted 23 Oct 2010 6:24 am    
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Sherman,

Have you started using the second set of chords as a scale? I wouldn't play the E minor triad over a F major chord as a scale because the second chord of your progression, E minor, is an incorrect choice for harmonizing melodies over the F major chord........Why it doesn't sound correct used as a scale over F major is because the E minor triad is a 7 minor chord..... Its a triad made from the notes of then G major scale.........All of the other triads you listed are made from the notes in the F major scale.

Paul


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SveinungL


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Post  Posted 24 Oct 2010 10:44 am     Em over F
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Yes Paul is correct (again!) (Or did you mean Eminor in your second last sentence? - typo?)
Eminor in the key of F conflicts because in F you have the note Bb and the note F. If you bring in an Eminor tonality you'll introduce the notes B and F#. And they are both "wrong" in the key of F. However I'm sure that Coltrane would have been able to play it and still sound good!!

To try to answer the question, theoretically raising the 4th note in a major scale gives you a lydian mode (In F that would be B instead of Bb)

If you have a way of lowering your 6th string a semitone try that instead in the third position of the Em chord. Then you could call it a Emb5 or a C7(no root). My guess is that it would work better.

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Franklin

 

Post  Posted 24 Oct 2010 7:35 pm    
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The last sentence is corrected......Thanks for the help....Accuracy is everything.....Paul Embarassed
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SveinungL


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Post  Posted 25 Oct 2010 1:20 pm    
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Hi.
Didn't mean to be picky, just happy I hadn't misunderstood anything importaint!!
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Sherman Willden


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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2010 9:46 am    
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Thank you all.

Bo, you answered my question very well. The problem with the internet is we can't know the feeling behind someones comment. I thought when I started my response with "My wife tells me" it would be known that I meant it to be facetious Smile

Paul and Sveinung, thank you for the corrections.

Sherman
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