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Topic: That 1 pedal, 2 finger, 3 string song, a different way?.... |
Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 9 Aug 2010 12:47 pm |
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I was just curious about another way of doing this. If any of you are familiar with the old Weldon Myrick/Hal Rugg thing they did some years back called "That Little Old One Pedal, Two Finger, Three String Song" or something similar to that where you started on the G position at the 15th fret and played strings 5, 6 & 7 I believe, using only the B pedal which raised your 6th string G# to A.
I do some things out of B6th where I use letting off of my E lever as the same move out of B6th as what you'd do by depressing the B pedal in E9. Couldn't you do a version of that "song" in the key of D starting at the same fret (15th) but playing strings 7, 8, and 9 (with the 9th string lowered to C#) or if you play the Universal tuning, raising your 9th string B to C# and then substituting the letting off of your E lever as the "one pedal" movement in the "song". If anyone is familiar with this song, lick, or run, or whatever it's called could you try this and tell me if it works or not. I've lost my copy of it years ago so I'm not familiar enough with it. This was just something that I thought up being retired with nothing to do so I though I'd put it up here to see if anyone could get anything out of it.......Thanks.......JH in Va.
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Dick Sexton
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Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 9 Aug 2010 2:32 pm Could this be it?
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Jerry I found this in my notes. It was labeled Wonder Lick-Hal and Weldon. I don't think it is complete, but is one I've modified to use. Sounds a little like what you've described.
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Steve Alonzo Walker
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Spartanburg,S.C. USA (deceased)
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Posted 9 Aug 2010 2:41 pm
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| I've watched Weldon and Hal do that lick at the Opry many times years ago. That would be their fill in a song, they would start way up on the neck and work their way down to the nut. Pretty amazing! So learn it if you can! |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 9 Aug 2010 4:42 pm
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You're right Dick but there is a little more to it.
I know it by heart but I can't post or email it because I think this course is still available.
Maybe b0b has it.
I can tell you that once you learn it you can play it as a dorian scale for your rock and blues by playing the whole thing back 2 frets. In other words play it in the key of G over the key of A.
I you want to play it in a 7th mode (mixilydian)or just play part of the thing as a 7th to move like from a 1 chord to a 4 you just play it in the 4 chord over the 1 chord. Play in the key of D over the key of A.
The whole thing is a lot of fun!!!!!!!! |
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Dale Hansen
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Hendersonville,Tennessee, (USA)
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 1:02 am
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Jerry, I've got this tabbed out over here, if it helps.
(bottom post)> http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=160664&highlight=
That timeless little pattern is a goldmine for multiple variations and endless possibilities.
It's like a skeletal framework. A foundation. Weldon is a master at using the core of it, and making it sound, or affect a particular song differently.
There are a couple of songs featuring Weldon's breaks, and turnarounds where you can still hear the basic framework, but it remains somewhat abstract.
The cuts:
Stay with me - Dave & Sugar
Whoever's watchin'- Reba McEntire
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 4:40 am
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| Dale Hansen wrote: |
That timeless little pattern is a goldmine for multiple variations and endless possibilities.
It's like a skeletal framework. A foundation.
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Couldn't agree more.
When I first got this way back I really didn't pay attention to what it was telling me.I played it but didn't connect the dots. A decade later I revisited it and it was like someone turned on the lights. Weldon/Hal really put together a brilliant piece here which once understood opens the door to endless possibilities as Dale so correctly states. I kinda eqaute this to a diminished passing scale on the guitar which allows you to resolve or lead to anywhere you want or need to be.
It's not just a lick...if you view it as a lick you will miss the whole point, it's a friggin' music lesson which can basically connect pretty much all dots that cross your path, and they do not have to be at speed.
Stuarts take is also spot on...
Weldon, if you are reading, thanks
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Greg Wisecup
From:
Troy, Ohio
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 4:59 am
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Could somebody put up a clip of it so that I can hear it in context? Thanks
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 5:38 am
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Jerry:
I've been playing this lick, and variations thereof, for several decades now, and it does lead to many other great things if you hunt a bit. (My facebook video entitled "Climbing Stairs" is one example of an off-shoot of this lick.) I had not thought of the key shifts suggested by Bo. I am anxious to try them out. Thanks Bo.
In my experience you will find that you are often hitting the B pedal and then releasing it very quickly. If you put that change (half tone raise of the sixth string) on a knee lever I question whether you will be able to engage the lever fast enough to obtain satisfactory results. My knees are just not as fast as my feet. Your results may vary.
Have fun. |
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 10:46 am
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Yeah, someone put up a sound file of this.
Otherwise, it's almost meaningless.
We gotta hear it!
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 11:50 am
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well I went looking for my copy which I actually found a few months ago, but I put it somewhere and now it's missing again, along with all of the other 45's, it came on a small record. Here is a YouTube of Rocky Top, they very last descending phrase( 2:10) is a piece of this Weldon exercise. This is the best I can offer right now unless I find the little record again real soon ! The Weldon exercise takes the 1 to the 5 and then the 5 back to the 1 all basically in a single motion descending phrase.. The phrase I used here starts on the 1 chord plays over the 5 and back to the 1 in four measures at the end of verse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXxTFBh2p80
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 12:47 pm
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Tony...thank you.
That was excellent; and I got the descending drift as you mentioned around 2:10.
Great playing Tony. First time I've seen you and heard you play. Bravo!
Not to rob this thread, but in the same vein, I have a CD called "Chicken Pickin' Plus" with Jimmie Crawford & Russ Hicks. I think it came with some TAB for this fast riff that can be played against a bunch of progressions. The riff stays the same, but the chord progressions vary quite a bit. Just a way to show you how a phrase or lick or riff can sound quite different when played against different chord progressions, yet, the notes do not vary.
Sorry for the drift...now, back to our regularly scheduled program. 
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Clyde Mattocks
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Kinston, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 2:08 pm
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If you don't know a thing about speed picking and want to get your foot on the first rung of the ladder, this is the place to start. This lesson was a revelation when it came out.
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Frank Parish
From:
Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 10 Aug 2010 6:08 pm
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| I still remember that little tune from about 1981 and I think I payed $5 for it and it had a 45 rpm tear-out kind of record that came with it. That was the best $5 I ever spent! |
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