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Topic: Student Model Emmons 3&1 |
Ernie Pollock
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Posted 28 May 2010 6:14 am |
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Would a student model Emmons steel with 3&1 be worth anything near $1500.00? I think that may be stretching it a bit.
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Bob Knight
From:
Bowling Green KY
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Posted 28 May 2010 8:35 am
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These guitars usually go for $500-$700 in excellent condition....  |
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Larry Bressington
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Nebraska
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Posted 28 May 2010 9:28 am
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I owned one for many years, i'd have to say no more than $300.00, to offer my opinion.
I sold mine for $200.00 and i practically had to throw at players, the upgrades are exspensive for kits on knee levers, i went there, but wasted a lot of money.
You can steal a nice used pro model single 10 for $700.00 of a good brand, they are on here all the time under 'instrument for sale'!
It dosen't have 'That sound'  they are 'Plywood' a Great learner steel though no dought!
Now.... If you can sell it for $1500.00, you'd be doing just fine, there are many who would try!
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Bobby Burns
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 28 May 2010 11:13 am
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| I have seen at least three variations of the student models. Larry, if yours was playwood, and didn't sound good, it would be the minority for sure. I've had a couple of these that sounded as good as an emmons is expected to. They are solid maple, have a push-pull changer, and sound great. They look plain, are a little lighter weight, but can do anything any other push-pull can do. I have seen some Emmons student models with a simpler changer, cheaper pickup, and general flimsy construction too, but these are not what I think of as the standard. At any rate, even though an emmons student should be worth $1500 in good shape, They usualy bring around $750. I don't think you can find a better playing or sounding guitar than a well set up one of these in that price range. |
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b0b
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 28 May 2010 11:59 am
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Mine was plywood for sure i had it apart, i suppose one should be careful about which one it is.
The legs were no adjustable and the pick-up was not a standard emmons equip/ buzzy and muddy and non- adjustable if i can remember right. The tone was terrible compared to a pro model, but i milked it by changing all that stuff out.
I do remember it being Dye board of some plys for sure. It was also very, very, light and as i pressed the pedals, it would walk away from me
Perhaps that was what 'Emmons' sold us in 'England' back then, The 'Export model' 
Thanks bobby for letting us know about the different variations, i wasent aware of that.
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Bobby Burns
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 28 May 2010 1:27 pm
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| Yes, one time I heard about an Emmons student model at a pawn shop that they wanted $650 for. Since the one I had at the time was great, I rushed right out to buy it. It was a lot less guitar than mine. I almost thought that someone had just put an emmons plaque on a piece of crap, but after studying it a while, I decided that emmons actually made the piece of crap. So, I started asking a lot of questions before getting too excited about emmons student models. |
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Doug Beaumier
From:
Northampton, MA
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 28 May 2010 1:40 pm
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| I'd pay $500 for it - especially it was an 8 string. |
Of course, you've always been a sucker for nice 8-stringer!  |
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Bill Erchul
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Raleigh, NC, USA
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Posted 29 May 2010 3:07 pm
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I agree 100% with Doug: these are fine quality guitars with a great sound. However, recently on the Forum I was unable sell an Emmons GS-10 with 4 KLs for $1000. With push pull-knee KL kits selling for around $200 (so I'm told), I was surprised there wasn't any interest if only for the parts.
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Larry Bressington
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Nebraska
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Posted 29 May 2010 5:30 pm
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| Bobby Burns wrote: |
| Yes, one time I heard about an Emmons student model at a pawn shop that they wanted $650 for. Since the one I had at the time was great, I rushed right out to buy it. It was a lot less guitar than mine. I almost thought that someone had just put an emmons plaque on a piece of crap, but after studying it a while, I decided that emmons actually made the piece of crap. So, I started asking a lot of questions before getting too excited about emmons student models. |
That must have been the one i had bobby, i was of the opinion that was the only one out there, and if so wouldn't you say $200.00 tops.
I haven't seen the 'American' version like you had with real tone woods and a neck, mine had a stick on fret marker, No neck, and a pick-up if you call it that.
Like i said, Must have been the 'European model'
no offence meant by that, but a lot of big company's are asked by 'distributors' to produce, something cheap to help people get started in far away lands. kay' used to make a rough 'Les paul' with terrible frets, but it was cheap and i played it for 3 years also, so i cant complain.
The question was, 'what is it worth'?? so we need to know which one it is??
A lesson to all, before buying a student model, do your research before handing over the cash, there's a lot to know, pictures help too!!
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Bobby Burns
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 29 May 2010 5:47 pm
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| The regular version had a regular Emmons fretboard, but no raised neck. The pickup was a lot like a standard pickup, but not as tall, and it sounded like an Emmons. The body of my favorite one was solid maple, and looked like you gave red and black cans of krylon to a 10 year old and said, "Take this out to the back yard and sunburst it for me." I had another one that was the same, but it had a nicer white finish. I've seen quite a few of these that had the standard emmons rosewood mica on them. I think that the really cheap one that I saw had the rosewood, but I've seen several pretty standard ones with the rosewood that were fine playing and sounding guitars. They should bring more than they do. It was just an example of how the old Emmons company did things right, to make such an affordable guitar, that worked and sounded so much like their pro models. The red one I had, played and sounded as good as my old "66, it was just uglier, and came with fewer knees and pedals. The "66 came with 6 pedals, by the way, and no knees. |
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Stu Schulman
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Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 30 May 2010 9:08 am
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Bobby,I had a red and black Krylon looking sunburst one also,maple body great sounding guitar,I traded it to Jerry Blanton towards a new Blanton and Jerry said it was one of the best sounding Emmons's he'd ever heard which seed to baffle him,he said I can't figure out why this little guitar sounds so great.I have a good friend up here who has a gold one and we're talking about a trade for a "Tele" he's been losing his site and can't see the fretboard anymore,If I get it I'll post some pics,I'm wondering how hard it would be to add one more knee lever,I can do a lot of musical damage with two.
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