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Chris Dorch
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Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 14 May 2010 6:16 pm |
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Last night I recieved the final mix of a disc I was working on from the producer in NYC... On one song I played some bender and steel... I worked long and hard playing the steel to get it just right...
Sadly... it was "edited" out... *sigh* All that work... shame, shame...
Disc sounds great though...
Why does the steel have to be the "fall guy?"
*Grumble* |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 14 May 2010 6:44 pm
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Chris,I would contact the producer and ask him why he didn't use your parts,and tell him to be truthful.I have had parts that I thought were good edited out,and I've played parts that were left in that I wished were left out...I've also fired myself while wearing the producer's hat.The bottom line is no one wants their feelings hurt especially when you were happy with what you created.My attitude is tomorrow is a new day and things improve from there.Chin up my friend! 
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 14 May 2010 7:27 pm
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| Stu said it all. Jody. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Les Anderson
From:
The Great White North
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Posted 14 May 2010 10:54 pm
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When a band has to cut one or two musicians, who is usually the first to go?  |
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Franklin
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Posted 14 May 2010 11:47 pm
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My rule is simple......I never take anything personal.......
Since todays technology allows for infinite tracks, one of the producers jobs is to gather multiple options from various instruments to cover the bases...Our job is to give the options they request.....Often the producer will request more than they need...During the mix stage the artist, engineer, management, and label will voice their opinions as to what sounds should make the stew.....Just like the musician, the producer has to relinquish control and make the recording sound as good as it can, according to the ears of those who are paying his bills......He has a vote......Musicians don't unless they are part of the signed act.........We are the candidates....The process votes instruments in and out......
IMO, A humble phone call leaves the impression of insecurity.......And questioning final decisions leaves the impression of being difficult to work with.....No call shows confidence which is more professional.....Who knows, when you see him, tell him what you told us, "The recording sounds good"......Most likely he'll volunteer why there wasn't more steel used........Chances are he fought for more, since he had you play more.........Paul |
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Ray Leroux
From:
Vulcan Alberta CANADA/Thousand Palms CA.
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Posted 15 May 2010 12:27 am
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| Good advice Paul |
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Chris Dorch
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 15 May 2010 5:09 am
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Thanks to everyone... I know I am not the first and nor will I be the last to have my "talent" left on the cutting room floor (trust me, there isn't much there- talent that is).
For me it boils down to this fact: While I certainly did write the parts I played and spent plenty of time working on them, it's not my song. It's not even my album. So, it's not my decision. I am grateful that I was a part of it.
Besides, with all the stuff that was cut out, I might check into seeing if we can get "alternate" mixes for "b side" releases! I always loved those types of songs. Hearing a great song just a bit differently.
Thanks for the kind words. And you are right Mr. Franklin. It's not personal. It's business. |
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Bob Farlow
From:
Marietta,GA,
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Posted 15 May 2010 5:59 am
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| Don't worry about it -- unless the check bounces! |
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Tracy Sheehan
From:
Fort Worth, Texas, USA
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Posted 15 May 2010 9:38 am Re:
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| Just need to face the facts. Steel is not so popular any longer. To give an idea where (music?) has gone, i caught on the news a boy and girl that had been on American Idol which i have never watched. The audience were screaming and loving both of them and a female hog caller would have sounded like Judy Garland next to the girl,can't bring my self to say singer.Tracy |
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