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Topic: Adding 2 Mooney Pedals |
Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 22 Mar 2010 6:08 pm |
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| Suppose you had a standard Nashville E9th Emmons 3 pedal setup. First pedal raises strings 5 and 10, 2nd pedal raises strings 3 and 6, and 3d pedal raises strings 4 and 5. Then, suppose you were adding two new additional pedals to these 3 pedals, to make a total of 5 pedals on your E9th. Suppose you wanted these 2 new pedals to get more of the Ralph Mooney stuff. What would you have these two pedals do, and on what strings? I have been thinking about the first pedal lowering string 3 a half tone and raising string 6 a half tone. Then the 2nd pedal just raising the 4th string a whole tone and nothing more. What would you have these two new pedals do to capture more of the Mooney sound? |
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Jody Sanders
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Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Mar 2010 7:35 pm
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| My pedal 8 raises the 4th string E to F# on E9th. You have to learn to play with both feet. Jody. |
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Scott Shipley
From:
The Ozark Mountains
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Posted 22 Mar 2010 8:27 pm
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If you really wanna capture that Mooney sound, move that G# to the top.
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 22 Mar 2010 8:29 pm
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| Yes,Jody, I know it takes both feet to do some of the Mooney stuff. I do know the speed of a knee lever is slower than a foot pedal, because you can move your foot a lot quicker than your whole leg. I have tried to put some of the Mooney stuff on knee levers and I can't move my legs fast enough. 5 pedals on a 10 string E9th bent toward the Mooney sound can be dangerous, especially if you turn up the trebble on your amp. I'm going to see if I can raise the hair on the back of some singer's neck. |
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 23 Mar 2010 8:06 am
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| Go for it Keith. Jody. |
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John Groover McDuffie
From:
LA California, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2010 9:03 am
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Why does moving the G# to the top help with getting the "Mooney" sound?
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2010 10:18 am
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| Keith Hilton wrote: |
| 5 pedals on a 10 string E9th bent toward the Mooney sound can be dangerous, |
Heck, Keith -- I have ten Mooney pedals! There are two B pedals, however, and actually three G# strings. The D string is replaced with another high G# and the ninth pedal raises that bottom high G# independent of the standard left foot B pedal. You can get a Mooneyer than Mooney call and response thing bouncing off of both high G# raises -- far faster than repeating the same move twice with the left foot.
There are two knee levers to go along with the ten pedals -- a LL and a RR. The knees do exactly the same thing the first and tenth pedals do, however, so you have a choice. the LL knee raises the fatter of the two Es as does pedal one. The RR lowers the Es a does pedal ten. The second high G3 is on pedal nine. Using the knees you may get the standard and convenient 7th chord way on the right side with a knee lever and the standard A pedal and raise the E inversion way on the left side. Those standard changes sound better with knee levers, that explains why I have pedals and knees doing the same thing on the ends.
The guitar is obviously eight strings and is tuned to D9, but to describe the set up in ten string E9 language:
Pedal 1: raises the fat E
Pedal 2: standard A pedal
Pedal 3: standard B pedal
Pedal 4: the fifth string part of the A pedal
Pedal 5: raises fourth string E to F#
Pedal 6: lowers the 3 and 6 G#s to G
Pedal 7: B to Bbs
Pedal 8: this pedal is used to raise the D to D# or alternatively to lower the D to C# when I use a D string instead of an extra G#. This pedal shows how easy it is to change the setup on Fender 400
Pedal 9: raises the extra high G# that replaces the D string. If I use a D string than this pedal is a duplicate standard pedal B.
Pedal 10: lowers the Es
LL raises the lower E
RR Lowers the Es.
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Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Ethan Shaw
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2010 3:50 pm
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high e-f#
high g#-g |
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 23 Mar 2010 9:19 pm
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Chris that is one wild looking Fender 400. Who added all those pedals and knee levers? That thing looks dangerous just setting there.  |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 24 Mar 2010 9:37 am
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| Keith Hilton wrote: |
| Chris that is one wild looking Fender 400. Who added all those pedals and knee levers? That thing looks dangerous just setting there. |
I had a lot of spare parts. I started with the custom legs so I could adjust the height, then added the pedals and a friend made a modified leg clamp plate so the tenth pedal would fit. The knees are an Emmons three piece and a JCH. The RR is rodded with Factory Fender return loops threaded onto the ends of the rods. The short lengths of white heat shrink tubing you may see in the photo keeps the loops from falling of the fingers when there is slack in the system -- such as when the knee lever is folded down. I placed the loops over the pull fingers and snugged up the fit with the flexible shrink tubing. Compression springs would be more elegant.
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