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Craig Dains
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Iowa, USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 8:15 am |
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Which is the best cable to use?
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
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Sweden
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 9:37 am
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I believe a vast percentage of us around here swear
by the George L´s solder-less cables ; I use them
for reasons of simplicity & verasatility.McUtsi |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 10:37 am
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| George L, IMHO. |
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Roger Kelly
From:
Bristol,Tennessee
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 11:54 am
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| George L Cables and Connectors is what I choose to use. |
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Jason Hull
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 12:02 pm
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The best cable is the one that's still working!  |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 1:47 pm
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I kind of like these:
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Bryan Daste
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 1:54 pm
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| Another vote for George L's. Great for the seated performer...wouldn't want to use them on electric guitar, though, the connectors are sensitive to being pulled. I keep a Leatherman in my case for quick repairs on the job if one stops working...just clip the end, stick on the connector and turn the thumbwheel, back in business! |
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Gianni Gori
From:
Livorno, Italy
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 3:44 pm
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Bryan, I've been using George L's for years on guitar too (.225 size).
With the angle plugs, you're right, you may risk the thumb screw to come loose, but with their side screws the straight ones may be even safer than common soldered plugs. Never a problem!
The new GL's "Master Series" right angle plugs may be the best of both worlds, I "discovered" them yesterday LOL
Anyway...
George L's plugs are cool but the difference is in the cable.
Just wire a 8 stomps pedalboard with bulk patch cables, then try doing it with George L's and you'll HEAR the difference!
A great technician told me that George L's cable could be profitably replaced with a cheaper RG59... |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 2:02 am
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| 1 mo' fo' George L's |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 3:08 am
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George L's for me too. With my electronics background I look at the technical specs and the low capacitance of the George L's is a major factor.
RG59 is designed for RF (Radio Frequency) and does not make a good AF (Audio Frequency)cable.
Another mis-conception is the length of an audio cable. There are no "Standing Waves" or frequency related lengths of cable like there are in RF applications. Thus whether all cables are kept to 3 ft (or multiples of 3) has no bearing on audio cables. There are limitations on cable lengths with high impedence devices (generally about 20 ft)and there can be signal level loss and frequency loss with "long" cables. |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 3:57 am cables
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| Another vote for George L cables. Beside sounding better, another plus is that the cables are much thinner and more pliable so that they coil and store more easily than standard guitar cables. |
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Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 4:04 am
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| George L's, no contest. Never had a problem with them, as opposed to most other types I've tried since the seventies. And they come in many colors, making it easy to see which cable is which when you use the three cable volume pedal hook-up (guitar–amp, amp-vp, vp-amp). |
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Mike Neer
From:
NJ
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 4:48 am
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I made all my own cables about 15 years ago, using good quality cable and Switchcraft plugs. I made dozens of them, so I'm good for life.
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Tom Wolverton
From:
Carpinteria, CA
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 1:00 pm
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I wired my pedal board up with Lava cables and really like 'em. But I don't use them for the long runs (with motion) to the instruments or amps.
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Gary Cosden
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 1:20 pm
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| Lava Cable has lower capacitance than George L and their pedal board kits are excellent. If you like solder ends better than the George L style they are a great but somewhat pricey alternative. They are nice to deal with as well. |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From:
Sweden
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 1:39 pm
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Hello Per...remember those heavy-duty,ridiculously
priced LIFETIME GUARANTEE guitar cables..?..they´d
be the first ones to malfunction,as I recall...McUtsi |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 2:17 pm
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Another vote for George L's .. I cable my 2 racks systems completely with GL's as well as all my instrument cables. Never had an issue with them.
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Jack Ritter
From:
Enid, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 5:44 pm
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Definitely Geo L for me---used them for years.
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Marty Holmes
From:
Magnolia ,TX USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 6:14 pm
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| I never realized until i bought new cables how much tone i was loosing through George L's cables.I kept haveing buzzing problems with my George L cable's even though they were all tight and in great shape.I went to Guitar Center and bought 2 three foot,and 2 ten foot Live Wire Elite cables problem solved,and tone loss restored.These have a life time warranty on them too any problems just take em to any music store that carries them and swap em out the same day,no if,and's,or but's about it.They are triple sheilded and are the last cables i ever intend on buying.Do your self a favor if you want to hear the true signal your guitar is produceing then buy these,they are the real deal. |
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John Gould
From:
Houston, TX Now in Cleveland TX
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 8:14 pm
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So no Monster users out there?
I use a bunch of different things George L's rock pretty good, Mogami has been ok as well.
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Randy Wade
From:
Batesville, Arkansas, USA
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Posted 4 Mar 2010 11:11 pm
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| I like GeorgeL cables too but lately I have been using some Quantum cables. Soldered and shrink wrapped ends and high quality oxygen free cable make them very reliable |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 5 Mar 2010 3:10 am
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If you are "losing tone" through George L's cables you are in a rare minority. As an ex amp tech no one I know "loses tone" with George L's - they gain tone.
What is "oxygen free"? That sounds like another "sales" term. |
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Randy Wade
From:
Batesville, Arkansas, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2010 6:17 am
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| "Oxygen free" has something to do with the way the copper is made, I am told, and is supposed to be better about resisting corrosion. It may well just be a sales term, but the Quantum cables are well built and durable and reliable and I have had very good luck with them, even when they are subjected to a lot of rough treatment. I also use Quantum for P.A. and they get jerked and stepped on and everthing else, but hold up well. |
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Jay Ganz
From:
Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 5 Mar 2010 6:51 am
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I used a capacitance meter on George L's cables a few years ago, and they do measure extremely low.
With other cables, it gets up in the range that simulates turning off a brite switch. The highest frequencies are lost.
I just wish they didn't tangle so easily.  |
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Greg Cutshaw
From:
Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 5 Mar 2010 7:11 am
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The George L's right angle connector has 4pF of capacitance on my bridge and the cable about 8pF per foot. That's as good as most people need. I actually increased the length to cable from my foot volume to the amp because it was a little too clean for my liking.
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