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Topic: Vox AC30 |
Adam Fischer
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2010 8:59 am
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Has anyone ever tried running a PSG through an Vox AC30? If so, how did it measure up? |
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Chris LeDrew
From: Canada
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Posted 24 Jan 2010 11:29 am
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I saw Daniel Lanois live about a year ago and he ran a Pro 1 through an AC30. It sounded great, but he plays an overdriven type of steel that has no connection to clean, conventional country music (not that there's anything wrong with that.)
The AC30 is voiced for electric guitar, so if you want that typically clean steel tone, you will not get it. The mids will be too pronounced, and it will break up at the drop of a hat with a PSG pickup. For electric guitar the AC30 has a good bit of headroom, but a 710 or E66 would garble up the amp for lunch. I had an AC30 for years and never bothered with it for steel. It's a rock beast and I play country steel for the most part. For any bits of overdriven stuff I use a pedal. _________________ Jackson Steel Guitars
Web: www.chrisledrew.com |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2010 1:15 pm
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I tried my ShoBud through my Dr Z Prescription amp. A stunning amp for regular 6-string guitar. Voiced very much like an AC 30. It didn't sound good for steel. I've tried in the past to get Doc to build a steel amp. I think he just doesn't see enough of a market for one. |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 24 Jan 2010 2:04 pm
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Won't work. |
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Leslie Ehrlich
From: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 24 Jan 2010 3:09 pm
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Kevin Hatton wrote: |
Won't work. |
Won't work? That does it. I'm getting an AC30!
No, seriously, it all depends on what kind of music you want to play and what sound you're after. I'm not into the traditional country steel sound that most guys like, so I'd have a lot of fun with an amp like that - clean or overdriven. _________________ Sho-Bud Pro III + Marshall JMP 2204 half stack = good grind! |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From: Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 24 Jan 2010 8:21 pm
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Bunch of years ago, I played on a bill with Daniel Lanois and he had he same set up that Chris mentioned up above. If you like overdriven steel, you would have loved what I heard. What came out of that amp was delicious. |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From: Sweden
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Posted 25 Jan 2010 12:29 am
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I remember playing Hawaiian Steel through an AC 30
on a session,a couple of tunes w/ slight OD,and one
or two where I´d lower the volume a bit to keep it
clean ; great OD AND great clean sound ; not very
practical for all-round use,though,since there´s
limited clean headroom ; sweet studio amp,anyway.
McUtsi |
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Tor Arve Baroy
From: Norway
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Posted 25 Jan 2010 1:54 am
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Love it for guitar, dont care much for it on pedal steel |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 25 Jan 2010 2:28 am
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The AC30 is known for it's TOP BOOST gain and it's 70 pound weight. Although it can be a clean amp that is NOT what it's "thing" is.
If clean is not important this would be a great amp to own and use. If clean IS important this is the wrong amp. If Clean IS important and weight is not a factor go get a Twin Reverb ! _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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T. C. Furlong
From: Lake County, Illinois, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2010 4:13 pm
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If you have an AC30, try running your steel through a traditional clean amp and also into the AC 30. First dial up your best steel tone in the clean amp then feather in a little of the AC30 to fill in the mids. Ooh La La!
TC |
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Dan Tyack
From: Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 27 Jan 2010 11:12 am
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I love AC30s for steel. |
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James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2010 3:05 pm
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I would have to agree with the others ....For overdriven tones it's sweet, but what I really enjoyed was what TC refered to ....I ran a Silverface Twin with JBL's and ran an AC30 with Alnico Blues , and the combination was STUNNING to say the least .... The AC30 would add the mids , and a little hair on the notes, and the Twin would have a nice clean sparkle with the JBL's ... Mix the 2 together and what a tone !!!... I like a little edge to my tone, and sometimes even a little more than a little .... ....Jim |
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Dan Tyack
From: Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2010 8:30 pm
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Not to mention the hernia you would get by hauling both of those around.
The speakers are critical with an AC/30. The Blue Voxs are a match made in heaven. |
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Dan Tyack
From: Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2010 8:44 pm
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One other thing: IMHO AC/30s don't sound great clean. It's a bit dry. They start sounding great when the power amp starts getting pushed, and really great when it's getting squashed. According to my tube amp guru (Andy Marshall at THD) and AC/30 only really acts like a class A amp when pushed hard. The negative about AC/30s for pedal steel is that there is a pretty narrow window of volume between when they start sounding good but are 'cleanish', and when they start really breaking up. I usually use a THD Hotplate to manage the volume. |
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Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2010 10:49 pm
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I love my Vox valvetronic 60 VTX.
BD _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2010 2:59 am
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Dan,
Playing keyboards for a living for quite a few years , and carrying around a B3 with a Leslie , the weight of a couple of tube amps was a walk in the park !!...
I agree that the AC230 had to be cranked a bit to get the goods, but it was surely worth it ....There is a company , Morgan, out there now that makes copies of the early Vox amps ....Not sure it they are clones or similar , but the tone is surely there ....Check them out ...Jim |
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Jay Ganz
From: Out Behind The Barn
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Posted 29 Jan 2010 6:43 am
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There's also quite a difference between the two that I have.
One is a '63 standard with the blue alnicos and the other is a '65 Top Boost with silver alnicos.
Two totally different flavors. They are heavy, but that's why they put 3 handles on 'em!!! |
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Ray Riley
From: Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2010 7:34 am Vox Cambridge
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I have one that I have used for almost 50 years. I find it to be quite Shrill compared to a Peavey 12 or 15 inch speaker. It has a gold label Bulldog speaker. Great Reverb 3 button floor sw. Bought by my lovely wife in March of 1961. Just my observations. Ray _________________ Sho-Bud S-12 and a brand new N-1000 |
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Danny Hullihen
From: Harrison, Michigan
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Posted 29 Jan 2010 7:54 am
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James Quackenbush, O.M.G.!! you're tearing my heart out here. A Hammond B3 with a Leslie... now there's a sound from heaven if there ever was one! Reminds me of my days long ago playing in rock bands. Oh ya, you da man James! _________________ http://www.jagwirestrings.com |
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James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2010 8:19 am
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Danny,
I was at one time running TWO Leslies wth my B3 !!.....I ended that as I soon when to mic'ing the horn of only ONE Leslie !!...There is nothing like the feel , and the sound, of a B3 Hammnond...( OK C3's , A100's , and similar also apply ) ... I can still see it , my Leslie's sitting up on table's to elevate them up over the band for more projection !!.... Those were the days my friend ...When I finally settle into my last home, and have my much larger studio , I will have another B or C3 and will hook up the 2 - 122RV Leslies that I still have ...... Jim |
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James Quackenbush
From: Pomona, New York, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2010 8:21 am
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Jay,
I always knew you were a little strange , but I could never put my finger on it ....Having 3 hands might have been it !!!!......How did I miss that ? .....WOW !!...Jim |
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Danny Hullihen
From: Harrison, Michigan
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Posted 29 Jan 2010 11:21 am
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James, that is just so cool! Stay well my friend, I'm hoping for a day I can hear those glorious sounds again from the Hammond's and the big Leslie cabinets! If you're ever playing out somewhere, do let me know. There's just nothing comparable to this. Every once in a great while I'll see these on the big concert stages sometimes, but it's rare indeed! _________________ http://www.jagwirestrings.com |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From: Sweden
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Posted 30 Jan 2010 12:36 am
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As Jay implied,there is no definite "Trademark
AC 30 sound" ; I know a guy who has four or five
60´s AC 30´s,and none of them sounds anything like
the other...the common denominator is the way they
behave at high volumes.McUtsi |
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Tor Arve Baroy
From: Norway
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Posted 31 Jan 2010 12:38 pm
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I just used one as a stage prop in a music video
It does look really good! Love the VOX design
The Video will be released in about two weeks, the band is called HardCoreTroubadours, the song is Steel Rails Hum! |
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