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Topic: c6th on e9th....help! |
Steve Wood
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Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 17 Sep 2009 10:04 pm |
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folks,
I had a gig tonight and it wound up turning into a real swing jam...I was LOST.
I can noodle a little dropping my Es, etc., but is there a chord chart out there for jazz chords on an E9th neck so I can start making some sense of this?
thanks!
s. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2009 11:39 pm
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| Almost more important than getting hung up on the E's lowering, start exploring chords using the 9th string. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 1:17 am
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Steve,pedals A&B are also good for 6th chords
along w: the 9th string lower if you have it
as Rick mentions : use the 9th string
you have it as the root 2 frets up (1 whole step) from the 0 position
example : fret 2 root E on string 9 & strings 9 7 6 w: pedal B & 5
add pedal A & you've got a Emaj7
Buddy Emmons put out a E9 chord dictionary available here on Fo'
http://pedalsteelmusic.com/instruction/buddyemmons.html#be02
DougJernigan put out a neat course called : " Swingin' E9th"
i don't know if it's still available
Good luck on yer venture Steve |
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Micky Byrne
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United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 1:17 am Re: c6th on e9th....help!
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Steve, lots can be done on just lowering the E's but that "D" note does get in the way on strums from your 10th. I don't have the "D" anymore as I changed to a universal 12 in 1981, but as Rick said experiment more on the E9th, I was finding some nice "Jazz" chords on various grips long before I decided to go universal.
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Micky Byrne
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United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 1:25 am
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CrowBear how are you? I remember in one edition of "Steel guitarist" Magazine, still obtainable from Tom Bradshaw, Jeff Newman did an article called "The swinging E9th" ...I learned alot from that. Steve, perhaps you can contact Tom and ask which edition it was in and order that book.Yes and as Crowbear said...A+B down and you have A6th...so a good choice there too.
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 2:26 am Herb Steiner
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don't forget Herb Steiner's, "Swingin' on E9th." Lotsa familiar tunes to practice, with which gives you plenty of room to explore and expand upon.
thanks Herb,
Rick
Last edited by Rick Winfield on 18 Sep 2009 3:44 am; edited 1 time in total |
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John Roche
From:
England
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 3:26 am
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Another way is to use the minors, Am for C-- Em for G
and so on. |
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Bob Hickish
From:
Port Ludlow, Washington, USA, R.I.P.
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Luke Morell
From:
Ramsey Illinois, USA Hometown of Tex Williams
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 9:30 am
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| Don E. Curtis has a course out for this. I have it, it's a good course. Go to www.scottysmusic.com. |
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Marc Jenkins
From:
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 10:06 am
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| Doug Jernigan has a course as well. I like it! It's available here on the forum. |
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Jim Robbins
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 10:13 am
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What John Roche said, then when you want a 7th sound slide down 2 frets. Am gives you characteristic notes of a C6 chord, Gm gives you some characteristic notes of a C9 chord.
It's really more about feel than playing the cool chords (although the cool chords are fun). |
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Steve Wood
From:
Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Sep 2009 10:24 pm Thanks!
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thanks all for your help...lots to get me going...
steve |
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Matthew Prouty
From:
Warsaw, Poland
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Posted 19 Sep 2009 1:41 am
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I always refer back to this. Here are most of the chord positions you will need. The addition to this in my playing is the A&B and the funny little lever that lowers the D to C# (you call it what you want). This will get you so much of the C6th stuff.
http://users.interlinks.net/rebel/steel/allmyexs.html
From here you can see that you are missing 8, 6, and 4, they are all there chord wise somewhere. The 4 pedal I imitate with the A pedal -2, which gives you a bluesy/rock pentatonic sound. You can almost get that C6th bend sound on the blues scale with it. |
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