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Topic: Old Supro Double neck 6-string |
Walter Seaman
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Iowa, USA
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Kelvin Monaghan
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 1:21 am |
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| I had one of those for a couple of years I found it difficult to use the second neck as its on the same level,so eventually got rid of it ,however not a bad sounding lap.Cheers Kelvin |
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John Burton
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Manassas, Va
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 5:14 am
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Looks a little like this one of mine:
Except mine's a modern cheapie made in China ("Tennessee" brand) that I stripped and rebuilt awhile back.
I concur, having both necks on the same plane makes it's awkward to play the far neck. |
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Walter Seaman
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Iowa, USA
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 7:42 am
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Thanks for these insights about the double neck six strings. Does tgat problem about awkwardness of playing the far neck also happen with double neck 8 or 10 strings? Maybe it would depend on which model of double neck? Are there some brands/models that are built to avoid this problem?
Thanks! |
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John Burton
From:
Manassas, Va
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 9:06 am
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| Walter Seaman wrote: |
Thanks for these insights about the double neck six strings. Does tgat problem about awkwardness of playing the far neck also happen with double neck 8 or 10 strings? Maybe it would depend on which model of double neck? Are there some brands/models that are built to avoid this problem?
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It's not a problem that has to do with number of strings, it's about the necks being in plane with one another. Most dual neck designs, the far neck is elevated higher then the front neck. |
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Walter Jones
From:
Athens, Ohio USA
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 9:14 am
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Here is mine, got it in a deal from a closed pawn shop. At the time it had paper fretboards, I made these with a reverse image on plexiglass. Tuner buttons were gone, replaced with new tuners (kept the old Klusons) Of course the covers were missing, the pickup plates are pitted pretty bad. Just cleaned them with steel wool, look black in the picture but not painted. Those old Valco pickups are still "Hot" and sounds great. I also changed it to a 1/4 jack. The necks on the same level is not a problem for me, I also have a D-8 National with the front neck about 3/4 higher. The D-8 is on legs and the D-6 Supro in on the lap so neck height does not bother me. Good MOT finish with a cigarette burn you can see, gives it some class and looks cool.  Front neck E7 back neck C6.
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Michael Lee Allen
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Portage Park / Irving Park, Chicago, Illinois
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 7:03 am
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Matt Berg
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 15 Sep 2009 7:16 pm
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| This is identical to my main instrument. Sounds great, and you may even find it handy to switch necks on the same song, as the gain doesn't suffer much from leaving both necks on. |
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Walter Seaman
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Iowa, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2009 8:35 pm
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Hi Matt
Do you play this on a stand or lap or sometimes one or the other? I'm wondering if you might have experienced difficulty with the same-plane-neck idea discussed previously in this thread. Also what kind of case works for this kind of steel?
The seller of the one I sent wants about $800 and says there's no case. Is that a reasonable-sounding ballpark price?
Thanks for your time.
WS |
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 17 Sep 2009 6:36 am
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With no case? That's a very high price for that particular guitar, in my opinion.
This example sold on eBay for under $200, although it's in poor condition compared to the steel in question.
There's certainly some "wiggle room" in the price. Put your negotiation hat on if you decide to go for it.
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Matt Berg
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 17 Sep 2009 9:59 am Supro
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| Walter Seaman wrote: |
Hi Matt
Do you play this on a stand or lap or sometimes one or the other? I'm wondering if you might have experienced difficulty with the same-plane-neck idea discussed previously in this thread. Also what kind of case works for this kind of steel?
The seller of the one I sent wants about $800 and says there's no case. Is that a reasonable-sounding ballpark price?
Thanks for your time.
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No problem at all with the necks. Just need a block under my left foot that approximates the height of my volume pedal.
There was a guy on CL a while ago selling one for $525 or offering to trade that was puke, errm puce colored. At that price I considered picking it up as a spare, but we couldn't come to terms on a trade.
I lucked into a used anvil style custom case on ePay that was EXACTLY the right size and picked it up for cheap. Mine came with the original faux alligator cardboard case, which didn't seem useful for bringing my axe back from gigs where alcohol had been served!
Had some issues with the individual string volume which were discussed here in the electronics forum. I made some adjustments to the screw poles (and fixed the backwards magnet), but I still wind up using a compressor, too.
I think that $800 is in line with other gBase prices, that is, more than I'd pay unless I had an itch that no other scratch would fix, but not way ridiculous. It's been listed for quite some time, maybe the seller would listen to an offer.
$800 is more than you'd likely pay for 2 singlenecks and an A/B switch, if you wanna think about it that way, and then you'd not have to worry about the planar issue, not that it was anything I ever noticed, and I am a pretty small guy. On the other hand, I am pretty unobservant, too, but I kinda like the way the double neck plants in my lap, it makes my Fender Champ feel unstable in comparison. |
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Walter Seaman
From:
Iowa, USA
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 19 Sep 2009 10:25 am
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| I got the one I traded to Rick Alexander for $300. No way is it worth that much. |
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Walter Seaman
From:
Iowa, USA
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Posted 19 Sep 2009 11:34 am
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Hi Keith
Do you mean the single neck or double neck not being worth the price?
Thanks for your help! |
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 19 Sep 2009 12:19 pm
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| The double. If you got it with legs and a case the top end of what you should pay would be about $500 or a little more. A little patience and a sharp eye on ads and you'll get a much better deal. Like I said, the double I got was $300 in near mint condition. No legs, but otherwise a great guitar. The market is soft now so it is a buyer's paradise. |
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Matt Berg
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Matt Berg
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2009 8:34 pm On Second Thought....
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Maybe you should get this Supro style doubleneck from a dealer, so you know it will be set up correctly.
(look at the pix closely)
http://www.vintagecityguitars.com/guitar.php?i=851
Aaaaaarrrrrghhhhhh!!!!! |
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 22 Sep 2009 12:03 am
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Walter Seaman
From:
Iowa, USA
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Posted 30 Sep 2009 8:27 pm
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I got the 1959 Supro console and it's very nice but there are some challenges I've had with it: at first the G and D strings were barely audible through the pickup. After I adjusted the pickup poles so they would be closer to the strings(as suggested by the seller) they did become audible at reasonable levels.
A funny thing about the Supro is that is seems rather quiet compared to my cheap Morrell 6-string lapsteel (the 'basic' model which costs around $160). When I have my amp set at a fixed volume and play the Supro, then play the Morrell, the Morell is signficantly louder (although maybe the tone is not as nice). If I plug in my electric guitar (Fender Strat) at the same amp settings it's loud too. Only the Supro seems quieter. Has anyone else had this experience of having a vintage Supro which seems 'restrained' in its volume output at given amp level?
Thanks for your continued help! |
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Dan Tyack
From:
Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2009 7:24 pm
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| This is a common complaint for Supros: the pickups need to be re-magnitized. These pickups should be *way* hotter that a strat. There are other posts on people who do this kind of work, maybe somebody can help out here. |
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Matt Berg
From:
Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 10 Oct 2009 9:20 pm Magnets
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Make sure that one is not a wooden "dummy"/
BTW, one just went for $400 even last week on ePay. And it had the plastic PU covers and looked clean. |
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Keith Cordell
From:
San Diego
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Posted 11 Oct 2009 2:54 am
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| If you have low volume levels you should experiment with the placement of the magnets. Rick Aiello has a guide to how you set them up so that all the strings sound out equally, and it really works. I tried looking it up but didn't find it- maybe someone will chime in with a link. |
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