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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 8 Feb 2008 7:57 pm    
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....on the other hand, if you want to use it permanently as a lap steel, why not just use a lap steel ?
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Steve Branscom


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Post  Posted 9 Feb 2008 2:45 pm    
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Maybe you've got a Strat or a Tele or a reasonable facsimile thereof with the bolt on neck lying around the house gathering dust, not being played and you want a lap steel. Here's an easy way to come up with a lap steel using in-house inventory and the Redneck. A modest outlay of $200 and Voila! You've got a lap steel with that Tele sound or the Strat sound you like.
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David Simenson


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Post  Posted 10 Feb 2008 12:33 am    
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Maybe you've got a Strat or a Tele or a reasonable facsimile thereof with the bolt on neck lying around the house gathering dust, not being played and you want a lap steel.

My situation exactly. I have a couple of nice Teles with Seymour Duncan or US Fender pickups sitting around not being played. I'm playing keyboard, and now lap steel in a country band, and I'd like a 2nd lap steel to play in open D or open G for overdrive lead parts. A bolt-on square neck seems the way to go for me.
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Darrell Urbien


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Echo Park, California
Post  Posted 10 Feb 2008 1:00 pm    
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Alan Brookes wrote:
....on the other hand, if you want to use it permanently as a lap steel, why not just use a lap steel ?


(Again, guessing) It looks cool?
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David Simenson


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Post  Posted 11 Feb 2008 9:29 pm    
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I think lap steels look way cool, certainly better than a Tele with a fat square neck, but

1. I may not want the guitar permanently as a steel guitar, and
2. A $200 bolt-on square neck is a lot cheaper than a quality lap steel, from what I've seen.
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David Pinkston

 

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Hendersonville, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2009 3:59 pm     Phat Neck
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Here's one I had made..



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David Simenson


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Post  Posted 22 Aug 2009 7:29 pm    
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Beautiful guitar! I love Tele's (I have two of them) and yours must sound great. Since my original post a lot has happened. I got an 8-string steel guitar (GeorgeBoards) and lost interest in 6-string steel guitars. The only 6-string I play any more is a Gold Tone solid mahogany resophonic guitar, and I wish it had 8 strings as well. I'm gigging with the GeorgeBoard S-8 and the Gold Tone.
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 22 Aug 2009 9:22 pm    
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i understand all of this but geez, i hate to see a good tele being wasted. and..'modest outlay' of $200?? only ten years ago or so you could get just about any lapsteel you wanted for half of that!
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Mark Bracewell


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Willow Glen, California
Post  Posted 22 Aug 2009 9:40 pm    
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Wasted only if nobody is playing it - and a well done conversion is reversible. On the other hand, of all the classic guitars to convert, a tele seems a weird pick. If it's twang you're after, twang is pretty easy Smile I think I'd rather do a 70's SG for the sound, not very lap-friendly though. Boils down to what makes you happy.
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Robert Murphy


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West Virginia
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2009 6:59 am    
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I have a tele with stock neck set up to play slide. The tuning is my A11 AC#EGBD 42,32,30,22,17,12. I am using a hipshot with two palm levers only on the G&B strings for 1/2 bends which give me enough chord changes without the long travel of a whole bend. The saddles are graph-tech as is the raised nut. My next purchase will be a square neck for tone and sustain.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 23 Aug 2009 10:24 am    
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Mark Bracewell wrote:
...of all the classic guitars to convert, a tele seems a weird pick. If it's twang you're after, twang is pretty easy Smile I think I'd rather do a 70's SG for the sound, not very lap-friendly though. Boils down to what makes you happy.
I was thinking the same thing. A solid guitar with neck-through-bridge as one piece of wood, and no neck joint, would, in theory, give better sustain.
I, personally, doubt that a square neck is going to give more sustain than a round one. The same discussion has come up on the Forum about round neck versus square neck Resonator Guitars. Again, I have both, and I can't perceive any difference.
As I've said before, a lap steel is just a plank with a pickup and strings. You can build one in a weekend at very little cost. The rest is all for appearance sake.
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John Burton


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Manassas, Va
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2009 10:49 am    
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I was playing a Fender tele lap style this weekend. Round neck with a nut extender. I'm thinking of buying another tele (probably a cheaper brand, though, mayve a Rondo SX or something) to set up permanently with a higher nut.
Anyway...here's a little Youtube I posted of myself playing a Tele lap style.
see here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTh0HDtCUpY
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Dennis Brooker


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Iowa, USA
Post  Posted 23 Aug 2009 11:29 am    
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John - Nice job - If you were closer I'd hit you up for some lessons - DB
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2009 6:38 am    
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There was a fellow in Australia who was building these a few years ago:


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Steinar Gregertsen


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Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2009 7:57 am    
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Mark Bracewell wrote:
On the other hand, of all the classic guitars to convert, a tele seems a weird pick. If it's twang you're after, twang is pretty easy Smile I think I'd rather do a 70's SG for the sound, not very lap-friendly though. Boils down to what makes you happy.


Well, it's a whole lot easier to swap necks on a Tele than on an SG... Wink

Teles are so easy to modify, no problem dropping in a couple of hotter pickups for less twang and more 'growl', and when/if you want your old Tele back it's 30 minutes with a screwdriver and a soldering iron, readjust the action and intonation, and it's done.

I had a Strat with a squareneck, and I would have chosen a Tele if I could, the extended upper horn on the Strat sometimes got in the way when I was playing up the neck.
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Erv Niehaus


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Post  Posted 24 Aug 2009 12:26 pm    
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Steinar,
You mean like this:


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Steinar Gregertsen


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Post  Posted 24 Aug 2009 12:54 pm    
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That's right Erv, here's the one I had:



The upper horn wasn't a huge problem, just a little annoying now and then when I bumped into it with my left arm..
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John Billings


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Ohio, USA
Post  Posted 24 Aug 2009 1:01 pm    
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Alan,
The square neck stays on your leg very nicely. Doesn't slide around. That's probably why National did it back in the late 1920's.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 24 Aug 2009 4:23 pm    
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John Billings wrote:
Alan,
The square neck stays on your leg very nicely. Doesn't slide around. That's probably why National did it back in the late 1920's.
I think you're right, John.
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