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Ben Elder

 

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La Crescenta, California, USA
Post  Posted 27 Mar 2009 4:30 pm    
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I've been flailing at the PSG since the first term of the Reagan Administration (no causative connection that I know of.) It wasn't until joining the Forum (mid-W presidensity) that I ever heard the terms Emmons and Day for pedal setups.

I'm only recently hearing the term "Sho-Bud" setup for the knee levers. I assume it's the no-longer-in-vogue arrangement I've always been shown that includes the RKL lowering the E's.

If there is any standardization or even mild organization--and names--for E9th KL setups, I hope someone will spell these out and raise these up from the closely-guarded, secret-handshake esoterically oral tradition.

(Four levers or less--I don't need to know about inside-, outside- or vertical. I doubt I will live long enough to use two KLs with any degree of effectiveness, as I'm 55 and may not be around for much more than another 70 or so.)
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Mike Kowalik

 

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San Antonio,Texas
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2009 8:35 am    
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The Sho-Bud setup means that on the E9th neck the E's are lowered with the right knee left lever and with the Emmons setup they are lowered with the left knee right lever.

With the Emmons pedal setup the first pedal raises the 5th and 10th strings and the 3rd pedal raises the 4th string.....with the Day setup the 1st and 3rd pedals are reversed.


Hope this helps......
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Dave Mudgett


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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
Post  Posted 28 Mar 2009 9:52 am    
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The names are for the most basic standard E9 pedals and levers:

Emmons setup:
P1: A-pedal (Raise S5, S10 a whole tone)
P2: B-pedal (Raise S3, S6 a half tone)
P3: C-pedal (Raise S4, S5 a whole tone)
LKL: F-lever
LKR: E-Eb lever

Sho Bud setup:
Pedals: Same as Emmons
LKL: F-lever
RKL: E-Eb lever

Day Setup:
P1: C-pedal
P2: B-pedal
P3: A-pedal
LKL: E-Eb lever
LKR: F-lever

The rationale for switching the levers on Day setup is to make it easier to hit the critical A+F combination.

Some players set up these basic knee levers differently yet. For example, on the Day setup, one could also move the E-Eb lever to the right knee for a Day equivalent to the Sho Bud setup. Yet other players (including some well known ones) move both the F and E-Eb levers to the right knee. There is also the choice of where to put things on the right knee - for example, some players modify the Sho Bud setup to put E-Eb to RKR instead of RKL. I don't know any coined names for other variations like this.

I think there is an advantage to standardizing these basic E9 lever functions. But I don't see any real advantage in standardizing the location of where various standard levers are located. There are advantages and disadvantages to all of them for a given player, based on what they want to play, ergonomics, standard E9 vs. universal E9/B6, and so on. There are lots of threads on this topic.

My opinion, naturally.
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