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John Gould


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Post  Posted 12 Mar 2009 7:59 pm    
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Anyone using a compressor in their signal chain?
If so which one and what kind of settings.
And where in the signal path.
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Ivan Funk

 

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Hamburg Pennsylvania, USA
Post  Posted 12 Mar 2009 9:11 pm    
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I've been playing with a Bellari LA120 recently. I had a couple sitting around and thought I'd try it on the pedal steel.
I like the sound. Actually - pedal steel is the only thing it sounds good on (it's a cheap unit). It is subtle enough that you don't really notice a "compressed" sound although it colors the sound a with a bit of character and squeezes out nice sustain. It's an alleged "tube" compressor (12ax7) but I'm suspicious of the plate voltage although the description says: "All tube gain circuitry with proper high-voltage plate voltages. Maybe some electronics guy on here can explain how they do this with a 12v 300ma wall-wort. (Is it wort or wart?)
It uses optical gain reduction. It gives a nice touch sensitivity to the whole rig and I end up using the vol pedal differently.

The controls are just threshold and and output level. I just twist knobs till it sounds good.
I place it last in the chain before the amp or in an effects loop.

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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin

 

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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 1:05 am    
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Well,a 12AX7 double-triode operates from a 12 volt
heater supply,but You´re right in implying that it´s
best to take those "All-Tube...","Tube-Driven..."etc
rap w/ as many grains of salt as needed...there´s
some hoaxing going on,feeding off the concept of the
fabled,mysterious Electron Tube...McUtsi
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin

 

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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 1:10 am    
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...and I should add:I absolutely LOVE the fabled,
mysterious Electron Tube,it´s just that not every unit containing a tube is a high-end product,far
from it...McUtsi
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Alan Kirk


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Scotia, CA, USA
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 7:05 am    
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If you're going to use a compressor, buy a good one, a Keeley 4-knob or a DBX rack mount. A compressor of lower quality will not make you happy. And those comps you find in multi-effects devices--like Line 6, and other cheapos--pretty much suck.

A good compressor can enhance your sound, if used judiciously. A cheap one just sounds cheap, it detracts from your sound.
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Alan Kirk


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Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 7:10 am    
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Oops.
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Greg Cutshaw


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Corry, PA, USA
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 7:21 am    
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I use my Keeley 4 knob compressor both in "quack" mode and as a slight sustainer on my guitar parts. I haven't really needed it for steel. I do add a touch of compression to my steel recordings (via the Yamaha AW-2400 workstation) to even them out by reducing the extreme peaks. Never had to do that for live playing though.

Greg
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Steve English


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Baja, Arizona
Post  Posted 13 Mar 2009 10:48 am    
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In reference to the pedal steel guitar:

Unless you're going for the sound effect of the compressor(the "squashed effect"), I can't think of any practical application a compressor would have.

If it's sustain you're looking for, the trade-off will probably be higher noise and the audible side effects of the compressor.

Not a good substitute for technique, in my opinion.

For post effects recording, I've always preferred a good optical limiter.
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Brian McGaughey


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Orcas Island, WA USA
Post  Posted 16 Mar 2009 3:53 pm    
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My sustain "squeezer-outer"...



Otherwise after recording perhaps a little compression when you can hear me misuse my sustain "squeezer-outer. Smile
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