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Anders Brundell


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Falun, Sweden
Post  Posted 28 Sep 2008 11:04 pm    
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What do you fellow pickers recommend for a guy who owns an Emmons LeGrande II and want something similar sounding for a second steel?
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Terry Kinnear

 

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Erie ,Pennsylvania
Post  Posted 29 Sep 2008 3:32 am    
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I would recommend a mullen G2 . plays smooth, keeps in tune, the tone is great. check out mullen steel guitar. you "ll glad you did. tk
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 29 Sep 2008 5:31 am     Re: Second steel
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Anders Brundell wrote:
What do you fellow pickers recommend for a guy who owns an Emmons LeGrande II and want something similar sounding for a second steel?

A second Legrande II. (Is this a trick question?)
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Anders Brundell


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Falun, Sweden
Post  Posted 5 Oct 2008 12:17 am    
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Thanks, Terry! I'll relay your advice over to him.

Jim - in order to save money I think he's more likely to move around his present LeGrande II than to buy yet one more and move between them. Shocked
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Larry Bressington

 

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Nebraska
Post  Posted 5 Oct 2008 8:32 am    
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Most steels sound good, it's just a matter of opinion, a lot of it is visual, all plays a part in your ability to make it sing! Smile
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Paddy Long


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Christchurch, New Zealand
Post  Posted 5 Oct 2008 1:06 pm    
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I've found that having 2 steels it's important that they both feel and play the same !! Smile
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Cartwright Thompson


Post  Posted 5 Oct 2008 2:20 pm    
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I had a Legrande II for almost 15 years. I bought a Push/Pull a year ago. Last July I sold the Legrande in order to buy another Push/Pull. I loved the Legrande but after playing an original Emmons for a while....
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Jeff Hyman


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 5 Oct 2008 2:25 pm    
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I agree with Paddy on this one. The ideal practice rig IMHO would be a clone of what you take out live. Only problem is it can be expensive, however, you do have a nice set of replacement parts if something breaks. If you're not completely satisfied with your primary rig, then it's a good time to experiment.
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 5 Oct 2008 2:43 pm    
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Some of the players that I'm familiar with who were, as they say, "dyed-in-the-wool Emmons fanatics", have switched over to ZumSteel. Zums have made a big penetration into the market, lately, and continue to be a "wait list" item.

All that said, I'm not one who finds any one brand to be a leader in more than one or two categorie. To me, it's more of a "pick what you like and just start playing" thing than it is wringing your hands trying to find out what's really best.

I can play any brand with equal ineptitude! Razz
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Jeff Hyman


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West Virginia, USA
Post  Posted 5 Oct 2008 3:32 pm    
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Donny,

I'm not that lucky nor talented. Where I personally really get screwed up, is when there is a change in a knee lever or pedal. Is this a challenge for you, or have you gotten past this? Gary Gimble absolutely loves your playing. Have you ever sat down on his PSG? If yes, how was the ride? From the mods he has made, I would think being from outer-space would help. :-)
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Ulf Edlund


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UmeƄ, Sweden
Post  Posted 6 Oct 2008 12:32 pm    
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My red carter Winking
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Charles Davidson

 

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Phenix City Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 6 Oct 2008 2:02 pm    
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I can barely afford the ONE i have,BUT if I could afford two[one left set up at the club,one at home]would want them to be very similar to each other as far as the action feels.DYKBC.
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Michael Strauss


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Delray Beach,Florida
Post  Posted 6 Oct 2008 2:21 pm    
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I just my second steel, a LGD. Personally I wouldn't want another steel to sound like my Carter S12-U IMHO. When I practice, I start on one and then go and do the same exercise on the other as not to get confused.
I own a bunch of basses 4, 5 and 6 string, fretted and fretless. I have a 20" travel bass, the others are 30 1/2" and 34" scales and they are all different brands. I find if you don't think to much about the instrument, but think about the music it all comes together. my .02
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Donny Hinson

 

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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
Post  Posted 6 Oct 2008 4:05 pm    
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Jeff Hyman wrote:
Donny,

I'm not that lucky nor talented.


Mooney fans might disagree. Winking

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Where I personally really get screwed up, is when there is a change in a knee lever or pedal. Is this a challenge for you, or have you gotten past this?


Jeff, at my age and physical condition...EVERYTHING is a challenge!

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Gary Gimble absolutely loves your playing. Have you ever sat down on his PSG? If yes, how was the ride? From the mods he has made, I would think being from outer-space would help.


Jeff, Gary is a very good player, but if I sat down at his axe, I'd be thinking and playing like it was my axe, not his. In other words, I'd find the few changes that I use (I have a very simple setup), and that would be all I'd worry about.

It took me most of life to realize that mindset is a very powerful thing when it comes to playing an instrument
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Ray Walker

 

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Smithfield, NC, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 6 Oct 2008 4:39 pm    
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I recently switched from Mullen to Rains. I find the guitar to have great tone but it is smooth and quick. It is very comparable to a Emmons but make no mistake it is a Rains and I am happy to be playing it. Now having said that I just received my second steel, and I also find it important to not adjust from one steel to another. My purpose for having two steels is to keep one up and ready for woodsheding and the other is the workhorse. So you may imagine that my second steel was also a Rains. Now I am happy. And that's my opinion.

Ray Walker
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Larry Bressington

 

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Nebraska
Post  Posted 7 Oct 2008 8:20 pm    
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I run MSA Classic for woody shedding, and My road ready rig is SHO-BUD PRO 2, E9 and OPEN G 6 STRING Both steels have identical copedants, and very close throws on the pedals and knee's; I set them both up, whilst they were side by side, and switching from one to another has very little set backs, though the SHO-BUD has a higher distance from the fretboard, i use a different bar size for my practice rig to compensate. I generally warm up on diminished scales at the gig for about 15 minutes, so my eyes re-train in no time flat.
I havent had any [you suck] feedback that i am aware of yet! Whoa!
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