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Topic: What is an OBAIL Pocket |
Sherman Willden
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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 10:39 am |
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I have seen this in a couple of posts. What is the OBAIL pocket?
Thank you;
Sherman |
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Steve Feldman
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Central MA USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 11:03 am
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Ah yes, that would be the 'Oh Brother, Am I Lost' pocket. 
Next...
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 11:39 am
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When you get lost you go back to the "I" and wait.  |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 1:12 pm
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Sherman,
That's from a Jeff Newman C6 course that shows a "pocket" of notes that can be played against all the chords in the song and sound as if you actually know what you're doing! |
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 2:11 pm
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| Oh Boy,Am I Lost. by Jeff Newman. |
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Michael Douchette
From:
Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Don Sulesky
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Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 3:04 pm
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Not to my knowledge, although he has written some of those in the old Guitar Player mags years ago when he was a a contributor to the mag.
The one he does on the C6th neck is built around a 12 bar blues if I remember correctly.
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JERRY THURMOND
From:
sullivan mo u.s.a.
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 3:39 pm
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It is one the best licks that Jeff showed me back in the late 70 or early 80's, at Bill Jobes house. I still use it today anytime I am not sure of the melody. If he had one for the E9th I never heard him mention it.
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Bob Blair
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 19 Jul 2008 3:55 pm
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You can play it on an E9 tuning any time you want - you just have to lower your E's so you have a 6th chord lying there in front of you.
I suppose, though, that some standard AB pedal mashing constitutes the E9th "OBAIL"! |
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Brandon Ordoyne
From:
Needville,Texas USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2008 5:51 pm
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I got taught the OBAIL, and I use it when I am playing C6 when I need to get out of a hole. On E9, I use the Pentatonic blues scale when I am in a hole and need to get out. 
Brandon
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Steve Norman
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Seattle Washington, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2008 6:59 pm
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uh,,what is it? I could really have used that last night....
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Jody Cameron
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Angleton, TX,, USA
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Posted 20 Jul 2008 7:26 pm
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| Basically, it's the pentatonic (major) scale. |
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Bob Blair
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Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 20 Jul 2008 8:21 pm
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Yeah, "OBAIL" was just Jeff's name for it, and of describing how to use on the bandstand to sound like we knew what we were doing even if we didn't really. At one point in one of his C6th courses, while making the point that it really isn't that hard to play some basic changes in that tuning, Jeff said "an idiot could do this!".
I miss him. |
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 21 Jul 2008 8:45 am Hi
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Jeff tought this progression around the song (60 Minit Man).
ernie |
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Roger Edgington
From:
San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2008 5:47 am
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| WOW! I've never heard of that and I sure could use it. Usually if I get lost,it's beyond repair of any sort. If you play yourself into something unexpected, it's important to be able to play yoursef out of a potential problem before it gets crazy. I'll try most songs that are thrown to me and I have been known to rewrite an unfamiliar song before. |
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Steve Norman
From:
Seattle Washington, USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2008 5:49 am
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I usually fumble around in the root open position,,In E on frets 2 and 4,,2 string grip skipping 2 strings is this what you guys are talking about?
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 22 Jul 2008 6:20 am Thanks Steve..
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| What you guys are talking about? An example please. |
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Jody Cameron
From:
Angleton, TX,, USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2008 6:35 am
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The OBAIL horizontal pentatonic major as taught by Jeff on the C6 tuning is as follows:
In the key of D:
Fret 5 String 6
Fret 7 str. 6
Fret 7 str. 5
Fret 7 str. 4
Fret 9 str. 4
Fret 9 str. 3
Fret 9 str. 1 (open D)
Fret 10 str. 2
Blue notes can be found at:
Fret 8 str. 4 and Fret 10 str. 1
Natural "pockets" can be used around these blue notes. This little scale is very useful! jc
Last edited by Jody Cameron on 23 Jul 2008 7:51 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 22 Jul 2008 8:03 am
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Sounds like the melody line from Gasoline Ally, that old song by Rod Stewart and the Faces
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Russ Wever
From:
Kansas City
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Posted 22 Jul 2008 9:18 pm
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In the key of C:
Fret 5 String 6
Fret 7 str. 6
Fret 7 str. 5
Fret 7 str. 4
Fret 9 str. 4
Fret 9 str. 3
Fret 9 str. 1 (open D)
Fret 10 str. 2
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Uh, actually, that'd be key of 'D' pentatonic -
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Note name - D E F# A B
Scale tone - R 2 3 5 6 |
'Penta' refers to 'five' notes.
~Russ |
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Tamara James
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Posted 23 Jul 2008 3:42 am Pentonics
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Pentonics. great topic.
I have heard some folks refer to the "BB King" pocket. I have been reading and watching youtubes about it. If that is a "pocket" is I am very excited about learing how to do that. It's a very small range that he used, but boy oh boy did he work it!
He did excel in the blues. That is what I am interested in learning. I've started learning it on my six-string and I found someone to help me with it. It's a great sound. To hear what BB king did with it assures me that it's a worthy goal.
(I'm sure there are others right here on this board who can do as well, I just don't know who they are. I don't intend to slight anyone.) |
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Jody Cameron
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Angleton, TX,, USA
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Posted 23 Jul 2008 7:49 am
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| You are correct Russ - my mistake! The scale I described is in the key of D not C - thanks for catching that, I corrected the post above. jc |
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Steve Schmidt
From:
Ramsey, MN, USA
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Posted 23 Jul 2008 8:09 am
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Hi Jody,
I have heard the term "Blue Notes". What does that mean?
steve |
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Jody Cameron
From:
Angleton, TX,, USA
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Posted 23 Jul 2008 2:16 pm
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Steve, I've always thought of "blue" notes as flatted thirds, flatted fifths and flatted sevenths in any given key - sort of lending a blues sound to the scale, such as is achieved when playing a minor scale over a major chord.
One may also use the minor pentatonic scale over a 12 bar blues progression such as:
1 4 1 1
4 4 (1 2m) (3m 3bm)
2m 5 (1 6) (2m 5)
In the key of D the chord labels would be:
D7 G7 D7 D7
G7 G7 (D Em7) (F#m7 Fm7)
Em7 A7 (D B7) (Em7 A7)
Where the 1s, 4s and the 6 are typically played as dominant 7th chords.
The OBAIL major pent. scale as listed in the above post works well over these changes also. jc |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 23 Jul 2008 5:06 pm
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| Pentonics. great topic. |
Vodka and tonic, another great subject.
It seems to me that Jeff did have something similar on the E9th. I can't find any of the stuff I got from his seminars. |
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