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Topic: 1501-4 DT or 1501-4 SB ? for Mike brown |
Curt Langston
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Posted 9 May 2008 3:57 am
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Mike, I have a 1501-4 DT that sounds better to me than the SB. What did Peavey use the DT for. This is a 1501-4 DT, and not the 1502-4 DT.
Am I correct in believing that the DT stands for "deep throw", and SB stands for "shallow basket"?
Also, why did Peavey discontinue the DT in the N400s?
As always, I appreciate you taking time to answer our questions here on the forum.
Now, before anyone says "do a search"!
I already have, and it was never specifically addressed. |
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 9 May 2008 5:37 am Good Question
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I must say that no one has asked this question. But, the original 1501-4 was used in the 115 Renown and the Rhythm Master 400. The Session 400 Limited wedge, Nashville 400 and the 115 Session 400 at one time or another took the 1501-4 DT(Deep Throat).
During that same period of time we were beginning to switch over to the KEVLAR impregnated material in our higher powered concert system cabinets. All of the DT baskets went to the KEVLAR cone material, but the 1501-4 ohm remained with the papercone as it sounded better for steel guitar.
There are those players who like the KEVLAR sound for steel though, but we don't offer the 1501-4 ohm with KEVLAR.
The bottom line is that during the changeover, there were some 1501-4 DT speakers used until the 1501-4 ohm SB's were available. |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 9 May 2008 6:42 am
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Thanks Mike. I appreciate your time. The N400 I have has the 1501-4DT in it, but it does not appear to have the Kevlar. I have seen the Kevlar speaker, and mine is not like that. It has the same material as an SB, except that is steeper pitched (deep throat) from voice coil to edge, and I think it has more bottom end, and sounds warmer. |
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 9 May 2008 10:08 am Speaker
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Thanks for the feedback! |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 9 May 2008 1:14 pm
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Prolly shouldn't horn in here but, I have a pair of the DT's that I'm keepin' 'til I draw my last breath.
I have sold off several SB baskets and whole speakers and I still have a pair of those and love them too!
I have to disagree with you though re: your statement about the low end response. The SB has tons more bottom...almost too much at times it seems to me. It was in your face obvious when I changed out baskets the first time.
IMO, the DT has a more balanced and even response across the complete ps tone spectrum, but could be I just ain't got no ear
Apologies again for interjecting comments on your thread addressed to Mike. Either way though, you can't miss with either model of 1501. |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Jun 2008 9:51 am
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So, what do ya'll prefer, the DT or the SB 1501's?? |
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Tony Glassman
From: The Great Northwest
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Posted 7 Jun 2008 10:19 am
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James Morehead wrote: |
So, what do ya'll prefer, the DT or the SB 1501's?? |
...........and why? (spare no details) |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 7 Jun 2008 10:25 am
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I guess Tony and I (and others) are curious of tonal differences you might hear between these model speakers. There are a couple comments in this thread that are very good, but we'd like hear from more folks on this. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 7 Jun 2008 10:41 am
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FWIW, I'm keeping the DT's for PA applications and just to scratch the itch when I'm indecisive with the steel guitar rig. [I'm just as fickle as the rest of you].
Overall, due to availability of replacement parts and Peavey's committment to the SB model, that is probably the best choice. The DT's are hard to come by also. So, if you set your eq's and all to meet the SB's requirements, no tweaking is required if you need to change out a basket.
If I may reiterate, IMHO either of these models is an excellent speaker for steel guitar apps and it's just a matter of matching your settings to optimize the best properties of the respective drivers. |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 8 Jun 2008 12:08 pm
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Anyone? |
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Mike Brown
From: Meridian, Mississippi USA
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Posted 9 Jun 2008 8:11 am DT versus SB
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Back in the mid '90's, our complete line of speaker transducers were switched to KEVLAR impregnated cone material for our higher powered sound system applications. We chose to keep manufacturing the 1501-4 shallow baskets specifically for steel guitar applications. The KEVLAR material tended to be real mid range.
The present 1501-4 sb(#00027020)can be purchased through your local authorized Peavey dealer or it can be purchased direct from the factory.
Should you have questions, you may contact me toll free at 1-877-732-8391, ext. 1180 and I will be glad to assist you.
Mike Brown
Peavey USA |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 9 Jun 2008 8:17 am
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Thanx Mike for your responce, and your fantastic service to the steel community. |
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 3 Jul 2008 4:19 pm
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Maybe Mike K. will see this. Lot of good info here. |
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Larry Behm
From: Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 3:01 pm
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To me the DT has less mid range honk than the SB. It seems to cut better. I had a couple for years, just loved them, swore I would never get rid of the last one. But it was getting tired so I let it go.
I now have 2 SB in my N400's and the only way I can live with them is to crank the mid and shift up to full. It shifts the mids up and brings out the clearity in the sound. It also boosts the volume of the amp..
If you have good DT keep it, they are the best.
Larry Behm |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 5 Jul 2008 7:02 pm
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Just curious as to how you tell the difference between the DT and SB. I have 2 NV400's with different speakers. They look identical except my older one has a ribbed cone (and better bass response) and the newer one does not have ribs. The size and depth, the magnet, etc. all look the same. |
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