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Topic: Mobile ear training anyone? |
Chris Morano
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Rowe, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 4:27 am |
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| I'll be starting a new job (some warm inside work,yahoo!) in a few weeks that's about two and a half hours from home. I was thinking of using that windshield time in the truck to work on some ear training. Any of you folks tried or can recommend some of the courses they have now on CD? |
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Tamara James
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 9:22 am Re: Mobile ear training anyone?
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| Chris Morano wrote: |
| I'll be starting a new job (some warm inside work,yahoo!) in a few weeks that's about two and a half hours from home. I was thinking of using that windshield time in the truck to work on some ear training. Any of you folks tried or can recommend some of the courses they have now on CD? |
Been working on the ear training thing for 6 months. CDs aren't much help. The complete idots guide to music theory has been the best help. No kidding. There is a CD you can listen to, very boring. I would hate for you to fall asleep on the road. For long trips, I carry a harmonica or two. Listen to the tones or notes especially the scales. Then I use my voice to sing that same note. Sing those scales. No one will know and you'll look happy. Smile! Ya gotta hear it. Then listen to the intervals. Those are on the CD in the book. Practice intervals so you can hear how the melody goes. You'll get the idea if it goes up or down, small jump or big jump to the next note. Then listen to music (any music) for the cords and the progressions. Ignore the singer and melody. For the ear the ear training part, ya have to put them aside. Ya gotta hear what's behind them. Takes alot of practice to focus in on the cords under all the singing, melody, and bass playing. I still can't do it.
Listen to any music you like. Find all the one cords, then listen for the 4 and 5 cords. Practice catching the progression on the fly and your half way to being a steel guitar player. The words sound simple. Making it work is another matter. I'm on the edge of throwing in the towel alltogether. |
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Jim Kennedy
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Brentwood California, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 12:16 pm
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Try the up from the top A&B pedals course by Jeff Newman. He stresses learning to recognise the 1, 4 ,5 changes and uses very simple, straightforward songs and progressions to teach this. I assusme he does this in his other begining courses as well. Don't worry about the key as much as hearing the changes. If you know your basic chord shapes you can find the key. I would also suggest humming the melody to simple songs when you practice. Hearing the melody against the changes will help tremendously. It takes practice to develop your ear, just like any other skill. Another good way to practice is to try writing the progressions out to songs you want to play but don't know. This will really sahrpen your skills.
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Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 12:53 pm
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Look up ear training with google. There is tons of stuff made exactly for what you are talking about.
Pick the one that seems to suit you best. They all will help if you practice.
Check out "bruce arnold ear training" in amazon. I like his method.
Ear training is one of the best things you can do for your playing.
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Chris Morano
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Rowe, Massachusetts, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 3:10 pm
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| Thanks all, The Arnold stuff looks like the ticket. Years of writing band charts tuned my ear pretty well to recognizing most progressions, chords and colors but I've played with people with monster ears that can hear a ten minute solo then write it all down or hear three notes of a melody line and know what key they're in,over what chord inversion etc., amazing stuff. Since it's too late to select new parents with the big ear genes I'm hoping some discipline, Red Bull (thanks for your concern Tamara) and cab singing will push me a little further down the road. |
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Bryan Daste
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2007 11:36 pm
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Here's one that I use from time to time:
http://www.aruffo.com/eartraining/monster/
It's a bit clunky - it's a CD-ROM full of MP3s designed to improve your relative pitch skills in stages. As you progress, you burn a new set of MP3s to CD and listen to those in the car. It's pretty well thought out, but I don't think I could do it for 2.5 hours! Maybe 15 minutes at a time.
Bob, which of Bruce Arnold's many books and CDs would you recommend? These look pretty good, but there are several to choose from. |
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Bob Hoffnar
From:
Austin, Tx
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Posted 17 Dec 2007 12:46 am
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Bryan,
I would go with the basic stuff first. He has a different method that is very practical.
He has a site:
http://muse-eek.com/
I would look at this book:
Fanatic's Guide to Sight Singing and Ear Training Volume One
I studied privately with him a while ago. He has his methods organized differently now.
Keep in mind that this stuff takes a real commitment. If you spend an hour a day at it for a month or so it will work wonders.
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