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Topic: I give up! Bon Jovi goes country |
Joseph Carlson
From:
Grass Valley, California, USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 1:09 pm |
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Bon Jovi goes country "The Jersey boys tap into a Nashville sound in their "Lost Highway" video premiere"
http://www.yahoo.com/s/668795
Arggg! |
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Joseph Carlson
From:
Grass Valley, California, USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 1:10 pm
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| I think I'll sell my steel and take up golf! |
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Mike Shefrin
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 1:20 pm
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| I think I'll take Chris Hillman and Herb Pederson's "Lost Highway" from "Bakersfield Bound" over Bon Jivey anyday of the week. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 1:33 pm
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I don't care what he does, really. But I think he's got a fair amount of crust calling a song like this "Lost Highway". Oh yeah, it's legal, but I wouldn't have the temerity to do it.
This does affect things. If you google "lost highway", good luck finding references to either Leon Payne or Hank Williams. All you see is references to Bon Jovi, David Lynch's movie of the same name, and Lost Highway records, for several pages anyway.
This is a sort of de facto way to rewrite history - just bury the real thing beneath a mountain of other stuff and it gradually gets diluted and disappears from the main line. It wouldn't bother me except for the fact that these kind of afterthoughts obviously rely on the imagery of the original to make them saleable.
Bah, humbug.  |
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Don Poland
From:
Hanover, PA.
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 1:53 pm
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| Certainly not my cup of tea, but at least there was some steel buried in the mix. That is more than you can say for a lot of "country" tunes now a days. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 2:11 pm
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I'll believe it when he dumps Richie Sambora and picks up Ray Flacke or James Mitchell.
Bon Jovi is a good singer and I certainly think he can pull off a good Country tune but somewhere along the way he might want to consider a few players that can actually play a Country groove..rather than players who think it is very easy and think they are in a Country groove...
heres the dirty little secret, Country players can and do play Rock, Jazz, Swing etc...Many Rock and Jazz players think that Country is too easy and miss the whole point of it and thus FAIL at executing.
Bon Jovi Country ? Not yet..but he will probably sell more records than I ever will 
tp |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 2:20 pm
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I'll bet Bon Jovi can "do" country even better than Kid Rock! Uh-oh - I guess I'd have to listen to 'em both to find out? Crap. 
Hmmm, you do it and let me know how it turns out, O.K.?  |
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Jim West
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 3:05 pm
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| Why do you call it country? It's classic Bon Jovi! I like it a lot! |
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Archie Nicol R.I.P.
From:
Ayrshire, Scotland
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 3:26 pm
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I can't get it to play + I had to use the search to find it. I'm probably not missing much.
Arch.
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 4:17 pm JMO
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Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I quess it's about as country as the rest of the stuff thier selling today. 
Larry
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 4:24 pm
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| I knew this was going to happen when Hank Williams Jr. sold out country music with his "Outlaws Concert" on CMT with all those rock country acts. Hey Hank, If you don't like, pause, Dale Watson, if you don't like, pause, Heather Myles, you can kiss our A$$$$$$$$!!!! |
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ajm
From:
Los Angeles
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 5:03 pm
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"...heres the dirty little secret, Country players can and do play Rock, Jazz, Swing etc...Many Rock and Jazz players think that Country is too easy and miss the whole point of it and thus FAIL at executing."
True. But I have met just as many country and blues and jazz and (fill in the blank) players who think that rock is easy and also end up failing at executing. And this applies to not just guitarists, but also drummers, keyboardists, bassists and (fill in the blank.
One of my pet peeves with steel players is that they don't really work on their distorted tones. They just turn on a distortion box and think that's enough. Usually they just sound fake. Granted, I haven't heard every single steel player that uses a distortion box, but IMHO the only one I have heard that sounds authentic is Robert Randolph. (I don't really care for his style and/or choice of notes, but to me he at least has the tone part nailed.)
Also, I wish I had a dollar for every "musician" I've ever met who does not know what a steel guitar is (pedal or not). One guitar player I know, in spite of all of the times I've corrected him, still refers to steel guitar as "slide" guitar.
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Leslie Ehrlich
From:
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 5 Sep 2007 9:03 pm
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| ajm wrote: |
| One of my pet peeves with steel players is that they don't really work on their distorted tones. They just turn on a distortion box and think that's enough. Usually they just sound fake. Granted, I haven't heard every single steel player that uses a distortion box, but IMHO the only one I have heard that sounds authentic is Robert Randolph. (I don't really care for his style and/or choice of notes, but to me he at least has the tone part nailed.) |
I'm a rock 'n' roller, not a country picker. If I throw pedal steel into the mix, I play it with the amp overdriven. I don't like 'distortion boxes' because I find that I lose some bottom end with them. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 1:29 am
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I am referring to pro level players, not us bandstand hacks..
and yes, the overdrive used by many Steel players is pretty dismal. |
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Howard Tate
From:
Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 5:31 am
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| I would be happy if I could leave the distortion at home. |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 6:13 am
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Turn it around. I don't believe Jon Bongiovi went country, I believe country went Bon Jovi.
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 6:30 am
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I believe for every drop of rain that falls... (oh, never mind).
But I'll tell ya this, Bon Jovi is at least touring with a steel player in the band, a local guy from Philly area named Kurt Johnston. I reckon there's a lot of so-called 'country' acts that aren't doing that. |
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 8:18 am
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| What Herb said. Jody. |
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Joseph Carlson
From:
Grass Valley, California, USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 8:18 am
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| Herb Steiner wrote: |
| Turn it around. I don't believe Jon Bongiovi went country, I believe country went Bon Jovi. |
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head! |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 8:43 am
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| Tony, I agree about the stupid distortion and the players. I once saw Ricky Van Shelton's band do a version of "This Boy" by the Beatles at sound check in 3 part harmony that would blow your mind (12/8 time). This was without Ricky there. They also did a jazz number. They also did some of Ricky's traditional country. Nashville players are known all over the world for their incredible versitality. It doesn't work that way in the Rock world. Country playing takes alot more dynamics and touch than Rock music. To me, Rock music is far easier to play. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 3:00 pm
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He'll have to get in line. Tom Petty and Bruce Springsteen beat him to CMTish exposure by nearly a decade. It's allright with me. The definition of Country Music has long since been bastardized so that it encompasses nearly anything.
Let's just start a new category and call it "sorta kinda in a way you might say" country and leave the bona fide country music with Real Honest to Goodness, Down to Earth, Without an Attitude, Genuine Music from the Heart music in the Country Music caegory for those who respect and understand it. |
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Alvin Blaine
From:
Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 3:23 pm
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| Jerry Overstreet wrote: |
The definition of Country Music has long since been bastardized so that it encompasses nearly anything.
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Exactly, and it's been going on for over 100 years now!! |
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Steve Pacholl
From:
Minneapolis
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 4:25 pm
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| A few weeks ago I saw Bon Jovi on one of the morning shows and he performed a couple songs off the new album. During the interview he was asked about recording a country album and his response was that he did not record a country album nor is he going country. He said it happens that album was recorded in Nashville and the media and marketers are calling it country. Bon Jovi said he nothing against country music, but he is not going country. |
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Tim Harr
From:
Dunlap, Illinois
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 6:17 pm
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Conway went Country from Rock & Roll
Many of the country singers you guys idolize "crossed over... and back again"
What's the difference?
PS: I agree with Herb.. Good one 
Your buddy,
Tim |
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Bill Dobkins
From:
Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 6 Sep 2007 7:37 pm
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What Herb said...
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