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Topic: Buddy Emmons |
RMckee
From:
Broken Arrow, OK
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 6:06 pm |
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I read on another post a mention of Buddy Emmons and James Burton playing on Judy Collins' 'Who Knows Where Time Goes'. I found 3 Judy Collins albums on eBay, one of which is 'Who Knows Where Time Goes'. The old vinyl kind that have music on both sides. A couple of them have 'Someday Soon' on them. Several other songs with Buddy doing whatever it is that Buddy does. I never cease to be amazed at his playing. How does he come up with all those tasty licks? He is one of those folks that after they play something you think, 'Yep, that is how that was supposed to sound!!' He makes me wish I could play the steel....
Randy[This message was edited by RMckee on 18 October 2005 at 07:08 PM.] |
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Ernie Renn
From:
Brainerd, Minnesota USA
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 6:35 pm
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| He makes us all wish we could play the steel! |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 6:54 pm
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Well don't ever let on here that you want to spend any amount of time trying to play like him or you'll never hear the end of it..
EJL |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 7:17 pm
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| I would'nt dare!!!! |
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Jim Sliff
From:
Lawndale California, USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 7:33 pm
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Never worry about "hot" players. Just develop a style were you sound like yourself, not another clone, and you'll probably be much happier.
The last hting I want to do is copy somebody's licks note-for-note. That' just a musical Xerox machine. Copping someone's feel orr rhthmic sense is another thing altogether, as that can be adapted to your own harmonic choices.
In other words, when you hear a great player, give credit where credit is due - but don't let it affect your style. |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 18 Oct 2005 7:58 pm
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Well, I sure don't want to play like anyone else...........unless it would be Buddy!
Just for the record, Randy is a very good musician, plays steel guitar and 6 string guitar extremely well. Shoot, he can even get after a Banjo real good. Randy aims high, loves good chords and plays them well.
Jerry |
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Paul King
From:
Gainesville, Texas, USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 4:02 am
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| There has been so much said about Buddy Emmons that is true. When I see Buddy I see not only the steel player but I wish I could see what is ni his mind. His physical abilities on steel are outstanding but his mental is just as great. Great player, inventor of licks and steel guitar designer are just some of the words we use to describe him. I love to hear many steel players perform but when Buddy Emmons is playing I am like a kid in a candy store. |
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John Daugherty
From:
Rolla, Missouri, USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 4:24 am
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Yes, Buddy is as good as it gets, talented and tasty. A rare combination.
I would like to share some advice with all the "wannabes".
When I was compiling songs for an album, I asked my self "what songs should I do and what style should I play?"
My answer to myself was "Do what you CAN do, and do it WELL".
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www.phelpscountychoppers.com/steelguitar
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 4:41 am
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| For a real comparison, listen to what Mr. E. was getting out of the equipment in the '50's and early 60's, when the steel was in it's earlier stage(s) of evolution. Unbelievable tones, impossible harmonics, heavenly stuff. I hold my bar in awe... |
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mtulbert
From:
Plano, Texas 75023
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 4:52 am
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Here is an incite perhaps to how Buddy works.
Years ago when I was a sound engineer in Nashville I had the pleasure to work with him on many sessions.
Typically, the lead instruments figure out what part they want to play and then would play that exact part on each take till the producer had decided which take was the final.
It certainly made my job easier as I knew what to expect from the lead guitar and steel player...
NOT SO WITH THE BIG E!!!!!!!!
Every take and I mean every take there came forth from the steel and brand new and usually totally different part than from the take before. Musically I don't know how he was able to do that....It was like he was starting over again with the song on each take.
It made my job a challenge but it was sure fun to watch Buddy work in the studio.
A true genius....
Mark T.[This message was edited by mtulbert on 19 October 2005 at 05:54 AM.] |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 6:06 am
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Would it be improper for me to mention that I CANNOT play the same song twice the same way  |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 6:25 am
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| A dear departed friend and Buddy Emmons fan, Mac Atcheson, stated it so appropriatly when he said "I'd rather listen to Buddy tune than anyone else play". Pretty much says it all. |
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ed packard
From:
Show Low AZ
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 7:04 am
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| Sometimes overlooked are Buddy's contributions re the design/structure of the PSG...this is one multitalented chap! I hope that this next comment sits well with him...to me, Buddy is the Les Paul of the PSG. |
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Mike Spaeth
From:
Springdale, Arkansas
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Posted 19 Oct 2005 9:46 am
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| Randy, don't sell yourself short! You do a fine job on steel!I get your point though, we all would love to sound a little more like Buddy.....OK a lot more like Buddy! |
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Gary Harris
From:
Hendersonville, TN, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2005 8:53 am
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Several years ago Buddy and a second steel player played on the same song. Buddy got it right the first time. The second player went back into the studio for a second shot but again Buddy was by far the better of the two.
I have the Christmas album by Buddy and it is excellent. |
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Jon Zimmerman
From:
California, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2005 5:20 pm
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| I AGREE with everybody! (you won't see this said very often on the forum, so indulge a little. ) JZ |
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Billy Carr
From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Oct 2005 12:16 am
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| Speaking of BE, when he put together the plans for the building of the "Emmons" guitar in the early 60's including even the logo, that was a master at work even then. I believe that the guitars of today are pretty much measured and compared to BE's early work with the "Emmons" guitars. Here we are 40 years later and his work is still being studied. |
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Jim Blakey
From:
SanAntonio, Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2005 1:18 am
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| I agree with Eric. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 21 Oct 2005 2:28 am
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I didn't realize Buddy designed the PPulls..I thought it was a sort of colaboration with Ron Sr.
regardless, sorry Eric..
I'm gonna still try to play like Buddy...
there's always a plan..and hope..  [This message was edited by Tony Prior on 21 October 2005 at 03:29 AM.] |
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Buck Reid
From:
Nashville,TN
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Posted 22 Oct 2005 10:58 am
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| It's hard to imagine that any one player, could ever again contribute as much to the pedal steel guitar as Buddy Emmons has. We all know there are some wonderful players out there but Buddy was there from the induction of pedals to this amazing instrument. From the early days with Sho-Bud,to desiging and manufacturing the Emmons push-pull guitars,to his collaboration with Jimmy Day in establishing what we now use as standard tunings and pedal set ups. Then top it off with his phenominal abilty to present all of this through his great playing! Not trying to slight anyone else as i have some very talented friends who are also great players - simply a "tip of the hat" to the one person who in my opinion,has contributed more over all,than any other! His efforts have inspired many other musicians....and not just steel guitar players,to want to be better! [This message was edited by Buck Reid on 22 October 2005 at 12:00 PM.] |
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Roy Thomson
From:
Wolfville, Nova Scotia,Canada
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Posted 22 Oct 2005 11:03 am
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You said it about as well as it could ever be said Buck.
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Billy Carr
From:
Seminary, Mississippi, USA (deceased)
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Posted 22 Oct 2005 12:56 pm
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| You nailed it Buck! BE is to steel guitar what Babe Ruth was to baseball or Bear Bryant was to football. A LEGEND. |
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Ron Whitworth
From:
Yuma,Ariz.USA Yeah they say it's a DRY heat !!
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Posted 22 Oct 2005 2:20 pm
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Very well said Mr. Buck Reid.I agree that we will probably never see another in the pedal steel guitar industry conquer everthing that Mr. Emmons has already accomplished.There are many very good players BUT he is still King of the Hill
IMHO..Ron |
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Charles Curtis
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Posted 23 Oct 2005 9:12 am
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| Well said Buck, well said. I sure wish that someone could persuade Buddy to do a seminar on the psg, DVD or VHS format. Man I'd hang on every word. |
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