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Topic: Tom Morrell chord ? |
Steven Welborn
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Ojai,CA USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2005 10:40 am |
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Tape: 'How The West Was Swung'
Song: 'Sweet Kind Of Love' Key: C
I just started learning this song and trying to figure out what T. Morrells' doing. Im a little stumped on this one passage so far.
After the first 16 bars (part 'A' played twice), Tom takes over 8 bars of part 'B'.
There's a turn around passage thru bars 7 and 8. Could somebody clear up for me what exactly is going on there. And particularly, what Toms playing on beat 3 and 4 of bar 7.
It sounds to me like a IIIm7, VI, IIm7, V turn around(according to the bass)
And to my ears, over the VI (measure 7, beat 3,4), Toms picks strngs 3,5,and 8 at 7th fret, slides down to fret 6 pressing pedal 7, picking same strngs (beat 3), picks strings 3,4,5,6 (beat 4).
If thats correct, Is that a chord substitution a flat 5th down from the VI chord? In this case an E flat 9/11?
This is so hip sounding, thanks.
[This message was edited by Steven Welborn on 28 July 2005 at 05:27 PM.] [This message was edited by Steven Welborn on 28 July 2005 at 05:32 PM.] |
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rpetersen
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Iowa
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Posted 28 Jul 2005 12:03 pm
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I can't help you, but I might warn you - I don't think Tom uses any pedals - I think he has a S-10 and it is tuned to E13th - that Guy is scary - you'll swear he is using pedals to get some of the chords he uses!!!!!!
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Ricky Davis
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Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2005 3:16 pm
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Yes that's correct> Tom does NOT use pedals.
Also; I only know of maybe three guys that have ever figured out exactly what and how Tom Plays and that would be Johnny Cox and Gary Carpenter and the 3rd one already passed away....so good luck finding out how he played it.
I play a E13+9 tuning like Tom's every now and then and when I sit down with his stuff; I can't for the life of me figure out how he does what he does...and he has even sat down with me before and showed me; and his brain is just far beyond anything normal for that tuning, that I just can't retain what he is showing me.
Ricky[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 28 July 2005 at 04:18 PM.] |
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Steven Welborn
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Ojai,CA USA
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Posted 28 Jul 2005 4:40 pm
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Oh boy, I forgot he's a nonpedaler. He IS scary, and as has been stated, he sure aint no new kid on the block.
Maybe Johny C. or Gary C. (if he ever visits the forum) would be kind enough to help here. |
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 28 Jul 2005 6:42 pm
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Tom does play a late 50's Sho-Bud with pedals on some of those albums. I know for sure that he lists that guitar on Vol II & III, the 'Take a Ride with Bob and Tommy' set.
You can't really tell much difference between his pedal and non-pedal playing. He's mighty incredible on either. I do play a few of his tunes but most of it's a mystery to me too.
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Al Marcus
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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 28 Jul 2005 7:15 pm
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Steven-You might check with Reece Anderson. He and Tom were swapping licks back in the old MSA days. I am pretty sure they both played a S12 Bb6major 7th tuning back then.
Reece has been playing his MSA Super-Slide 12 string non pedal lately, and I hear he is really tearing it up and makes you think he has pedals on it too......al 
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 28 Jul 2005 11:15 pm
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quote:
If thats correct, Is that a chord substitution a flat 5th down from the VI chord? In this case an E flat 9/11?
Bingo....
Ebm11.
-John
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 10 Aug 2005 2:06 pm
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I forgot to add, there are a few great examples of the use of this chord in turnarounds through jazz history. A couple off the top of my head:
- The fifth bar of "If you could see me now"
- Dizzy's trumpet cadenza at the end of the original version of "Groovin' High".
- The tenth measure of Miles Davis' "Four"
There's also a Charlie Parker tune, the title of which I can't remember now, which uses that turnaround. I'll post it when I think of it.
-John |
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