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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 8:15 am    
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"Pass it over to me"... remember THAT one?? Off the great Easy Rider soundtrack... I recall it had some really nice Lloyd Green style pedal steel playing on it, but I'm not real sure it was him...Is there a chance ANY one might know??...

Now I KNOW for a fact there are a lot of 50+ ex hippies [like me] out there,so maybe someone will remember.

I could be wrong,but I think the band was called Friends of Man.. maybe.. some kind of 60's hippie band name.. I really don't recall, those days are long in the past and my memory grows dim.

Anyway,I'd like to know if that was Lloyd on that record. The lyrical content of the song was very different that most of the sessions he worked on back then,thats for certain..
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Eric Gearhart

 

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Bellingham, Massachusetts, USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 8:20 am    
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"Fraternity of Man". Don't know who the steel player is though.
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Keith Cordell


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San Diego
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 8:27 am    
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The steel player was Red Rhodes.
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Eric Gearhart

 

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Bellingham, Massachusetts, USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 8:35 am    
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While we are at it, Does anyone remember the movie "JOE" with Peter Boyle? I recently purchased it on DVD and it has been cleaned up wonderfully. The theme song is great and sounds to be a non pedal player. Any ideas?
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Victor Denance

 

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Rennes, France
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 8:46 am    
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BTW, what does the word "bogart" mean ???

I've checked it on the dictionnary but it's not there.

Thanks !
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Ray Minich

 

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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 8:53 am    
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It's a word whose usage and application is acquired thru experience and exposure to certain influences. It can also be referred to as "delay of game".

I always liked "Little Feat's" version, 'cause by the time you got to the tune on "Waiting for Columbus", you'd already heard some pretty good tunes.

[This message was edited by Ray Minich on 06 April 2005 at 09:54 AM.]

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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 9:08 am    
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It means "Don't hang on to it" or "Don't monopolize" the joint. I always thought it derived from the way Bogart used to let his cigarette hang out of the side of his mouth, but who knows.

[This message was edited by Bill McCloskey on 06 April 2005 at 10:23 AM.]

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Mark Metdker

 

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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 9:34 am    
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Now how would a bunch of old steel players know what that means!!

Yep, I remember that song very well.

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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 9:35 am    
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Bill.. your explanation is pretty much dead on. at least thats what they tell me bob
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Jerry Hayes


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Virginia Beach, Va.
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 11:15 am    
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The artist listed on the old record I had was The Fraternity of Man 10/4 for what it's worth. That was one great tune which we always had a crowd sing along thing going.

Dont' bogart that joint my friend,
Pass it over to me.
Don't bogart that joint my friend,
Pass it over to me.

Roll another one,
Just like the other one........

Dang, I used to know all the words, oh well, maybe someone should have been "Bogarting" their wacky-backy joints when I was around, can't remember a thing anymore....JH in Va.

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Dave Van Allen


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Doylestown, PA , US , Earth
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 11:22 am    
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Roooooooooooooooooooooll another one,
Just like the other one........

You've been hangin' on to it
and I sure would like a hit.....


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Larry Robbins


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Fort Edward, New York
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 12:03 pm    
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Gee guys, I thought a "joint" was a place that sold booze....hmmmmmmmmmmm

Larry (two hits and the joint turned brown) Robbins
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Bob Carlucci

 

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Candor, New York, USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 12:17 pm    
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Bunch of old fart hippies... I'll bet if your hair hadn't all fallen out 15 years ago,it would be down to your butts!!

Seems like there were other lyrics that went kinda like this..."its about burnt to the end, now c'mon and be a real friend"... Ah well, those were fun times... but about 25 years ago. reality set it... bob

[This message was edited by Bob Carlucci on 06 April 2005 at 01:18 PM.]

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Frank Parish

 

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Nashville,Tn. USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 12:29 pm    
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I just can't remember anything from those days!
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Victor Denance

 

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Rennes, France
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 2:01 pm    
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Thanks a lot for the linguistic course fellows !

Next time I'll "bogart" a joint I'll remember that song... and I have a reputation to "bogart" them...
That's why I'm so bad at steel !!!
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Tom Olson

 

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Spokane, WA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 2:19 pm    
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I'm not positive about this, but -- I've always thought that the term "bogart" came from the apparent propensity of Mr. Bogart (the actor) to keep puffing on a cigarette until it was almost burnt down to his fingers.
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Jim West

 

Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 2:53 pm    
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I have never been accused of bogarting a joint. At least I can't remember.
Larry Robbins


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Fort Edward, New York
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 3:05 pm    
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No man, I mean the joint turned BROWN!....
Like,.....WOW man, far out!

edited to say: it really did turn brown,...man....man, Im hungry....lets go down to the store and by some chips man, yeah, cool....like , wow man....this dude is watching me.....oh man....
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 3:22 pm    
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Any other steel-related comments?
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basilh


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Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 3:33 pm    
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Bo·gart ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bgärt), Humphrey DeForest. 1899-1957.

American actor who played reticent, tough, but ultimately kind-hearted heroes in films such as Casablanca (1942) and The African Queen (1951), for which he won an Academy Award.

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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Main Entry: bogart1
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: to selfishly take or keep something; hog
Example: She was drunk and bogarted attention at the block party.
Etymology: probably from Humphrey Bogart, US actor
Usage: slang; bogarted, bogarting

Source: Webster's New Millennium™ Dictionary of English, Preview Edition (v 0.9.5)
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Larry Robbins


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Fort Edward, New York
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 3:50 pm    
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actually, I got into listening to this type of music just about the time I got out of high school, give or take. About the same time as I started listening to Buddy Cage, Sneaky Pete ect...This is the stuff that got me interested in the steel guitar. How bout the rest of you?
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Pete Finney

 

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Nashville Tn.
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 3:57 pm    
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I think Richie Hayward (Little Feat drummer) was in the "Fraternity of Man" and that's why they did it in their shows...

I don't know what all that other stuff is y'all are talking about! Winking
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Rick McDuffie

 

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Benson, North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 4:06 pm    
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I was guessing it had something to do with the bass player from Vanilla Fudge, but I could be wrong. I saw him when he was with Cactus and, believe me, there was no "bogarting" going on that night.

[This message was edited by Rick McDuffie on 06 April 2005 at 05:11 PM.]

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Dave Grafe


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Hudson River Valley NY
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 6:10 pm    
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anybody says they remember those days wasn't there
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Daryl Stogner


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San Diego, CA * R.I.P.
Post  Posted 6 Apr 2005 6:49 pm    
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Now I got the munchies! Hey did any of your ever see.....??? What was I gonna say? Oh yeah I got the munchies!



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