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Topic: Future Nashville Top Players? |
kyle reid
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 7:40 pm |
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| Can some of the Present Top players give us their thoughts on who will be some of the Top players of the future?, Naturally, I'm talking about Nashville studio high profile players, ThankS kyle |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 8:01 pm
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| Before Paul Franklin gets too old to play, I think the demand for steel guitar will drop to zero. So I think there will not be any future Nashville studio high profile players. |
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James Cann
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Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 8:16 pm
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| . . . I think the demand for steel guitar will drop to zero. |
Boy if this isn't a hell of a thought, and damned if it doesn't ring with an odd vibe of truth![This message was edited by James Cann on 19 February 2005 at 08:17 PM.] |
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Dan Tyack
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Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 9:04 pm
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I think the producers have almost enough tracks by Paul and the others to just dial in the parts with ProTools.
(A drummer friend of mine showed up at a session to play on an album. It was him, the producer, and the engineer. He spent about 3 hours putting down different grooves and fills and then they told him "ok, we've got what we need) |
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Pete Finney
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Nashville Tn.
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 9:26 pm
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First of all, I don't presume to be a "top" player, but I've been around Nashville a while, and as I sit backstage at a big touring "Nashville" arena show I just played...
First thought: and I thought I was cynical! (and I am...). but jeeze...
Humorous answer: Robert Randolph, of course!
Serious answer: Randall Currie and maybe Travis Toy
Serious answer # 2: some incredible young player we've not heard of yet. And though I am a cynical old fart (and have earned it) I think this is likely, and that we should all have faith!
My humble opinion... |
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Pete Finney
From:
Nashville Tn.
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 9:37 pm
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p.s.
Mike Johnson and Steve Hinson might not be "young", but they're only getting started as far as the records they play on that will knock us all on our A**'s!
And I for one am looking forward to all the things that they do in the next few years! |
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 9:47 pm
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| I think the producers have almost enough tracks by Paul and the others to just dial in the parts with ProTools. |
Lots of truth in that! Scary! |
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Eric West
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Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 9:51 pm
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I was just talking with one of those guys last week, and the subject of "home recording" arose.
Mentioned was how there doesn't need to be "a studio" even now.
Unmastered tracks can be sent via DSL, T1, or High speed internet, parts can be "punched in", many takes done, and sent back to me remixed by a guy on his laptop with earphones.
With knowledge any high school computer geek has, and a cheap 24 bit input interface, the "control room" is already in cobwebs.
"Nothing takes the place of an old Session 400 and an SM58 mike live in a studio." Somebody's kidding somebody.
CDs are nearly free, and etched CD labelers are dirt cheap.
I imagine there will be vanity studios in large cities, much as now, like the old "make a 45" machines. It'll cost less and less.
Several local people from Portland have gone, spent a hundred times what they needed to, and are just now finding that out.
In my mind, the "major studios" are largely props, covers for other enterprises, or sweetheart deals to keep relatives "working".
There are several examples of this, if we think hard enough.
I just heard a top guys' recording behind one of these "vanity artists" just because he got a kick out of the songs. It wasn't a fancy studio.
Somebody that just won a grammy this year recorded there too.
You'll also hear him on the top national hits.
Just like on the Majority of the GOOD Country hits of "yesteryear".
It's all getting ready to turn upside down again, but the guys that belong on the top will be there. One way or another. They made it the hard way, and the easy way doesn't scare them.
"Control Room Paraphinalia" will soon be in the same recycle bin that vinyl pressing machines went into. (So will the political "machinery".)
You can even upload the finished product directly to the radio consortuim, and sell it online without a CD. Bandstand sales can be password codes for downloads.
Me? I'll be playing at truck stops and critter clubs. And making 40k a year working days.
Some things don't change.
EJL
PS, did you mean Nashville Tennessee? or Nashville Idaho?
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 9:57 pm
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How true. It's all digital now, cut and paste.
How about computerized steels that Play in perfect tune, never make a mistake or hit a wrong chord. That's your top steel player 50 years from now. Maybe???....al 
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Webb Kline
From:
Orangeville, PA
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Posted 19 Feb 2005 10:26 pm
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I don't have to relay on it for a living, so I can be a bit more independant, but I was in the studio one day and they tried to sample my playing--did like Dan said--told me they had all they needed. I told them that was probably good because I wouldn't be coming back. I know for a fact that they used that sample on more than one project.
Sadly, that's where it is all going. Why? Because they can do it. Because we sit back and let it happen. I used to think it would go full circle and that they would eventually crave live performance. But, I now believe it will come to where real playing will sound unnatural to most people. We'll all sit around nursing homes lamenting about the good old days when music was real and the nurses will just think we're feeble old nutcases. |
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Dan Tyack
From:
Olympia, WA USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 12:08 am
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My comments were a joke (I forgot the smiley face). At Paul's level, a producer couldn't get away with that, the producer would be nailed by the union (amoung other interested parties). But I do anticipate that at some point this will be an issue. I do this all the time (willingly) when I record for radio beds and promos. The guys making these need to build hundreds of these tracks, and I give them permission to fly parts arount.
In terms of home studios replacing the places where Paul and company work, it's just not going to happen. I've done a boatload of sessions at home studios with decent equipment, and nothing I have played on will make any top 100 list anywhere. There is a big difference between a great studio with engineers and producers with great ears and your typical lowend studio. Now, plenty of overdubs will be done in places very much like my home studio, but that's a small part of the big picture.
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Tommy Roten
From:
Trondheim, Norway
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 6:10 am
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Pete,you have put me in some awfully fast company there...I'm not worthy-I'm just one of the"other pickers"!I do agree about Randle and Travis tho...two young guys who can play anything they want to...with taste and tone...
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 6:33 am
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I know Randall is well on his way. I knew that the first time I heard and watched him play! 
I'd like to know more about Travis Toy. |
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 7:02 am
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| Theresa,Travis was working with Patty Loveless for a while...last time I saw him was at his last PL show before starting with Rascal Flatts...he is a great steel player and a great guy...played real good electric guitar too!Say hi to my hero for me! |
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Mike Richardson
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Rutledge, Georgia, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 7:06 am
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I too think that someday there will be nothing but electronic music.A producer will sit behind a board and "Push" a button and get the guitar sound he wants and the drums and take away any true feeling a musician could put into his music.I hope I am wrong.
Mike Richardson |
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Theresa Galbraith
From:
Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 7:09 am
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Thanks Steve!
Your too modest!
Your hero played at Toosie's yesterday evening with your bass man. He made good money too!
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 7:14 am
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| Theresa-of all nights not to be working the Opry!I would have been over there on the front row cheering Gregg on! |
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Dale Bennett
From:
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 1:12 pm
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| Pete, I'll 2nd and 3rd that on Steve Hinson |
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 1:53 pm
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Maybe I`m just trying to be optimistic but music has gone the direction its headed now for so long that I`m hoping the next "new thing" will have to be country music with fiddle and steel again, we`ll all be busy
Like Theresa, I think Randall is a big part of the future of steel guitar, hes fantastic.
Hook
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Allen Moore
[This message was edited by Hook Moore on 20 February 2005 at 01:55 PM.] |
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Chris Bauer
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 6:25 pm
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All great nominations. I can easily imagine Wayne Dahl on the list as well. Besides having great technique, he always has some pretty unique musical ideas when he plays.
(Of course, unique isn't always the best calling card around here...) |
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Jody Sanders
From:
Magnolia,Texas, R.I.P.
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 7:43 pm
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| It is sad to say, but some of the top young players(Jody Cameron, Robbie Springfield, Robbie Prim) have no desire for the Nashville scene. Jody. |
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Tony Dingus
From:
Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 8:13 pm
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Steve H., I'm listening to you on Josh Turner's cd as I type and all I can say about your playing is "SWEET". You're hotter than a red duck on "What It Ain't". Good stuff!! Keep it up.
Tony |
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Les Pierce
From:
Shreveport, LA
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 8:45 pm
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Jody Cameron a "young player"...I guess by comparison, that might be true
I know what you are saying, but when I listen to country radio, on my half hour drive to work some mornings, I hear steel in every song. I'm not exagerating, every single song, and it's just a dominant as any of the other instruments.
Do you remember the 1970's, when the steel guitar really was missing in 90% of the country songs? It may not be in the style you like these days, but it is there, and is a very important part of the music of today.
Les
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Wayne Cox
From:
Chatham, Louisiana, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 20 Feb 2005 10:31 pm
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As much as I hate to agree with the scenario that ERIC WEST laid out for us...I'm afraid I must. It appears that major recording centers such as Nashville are living off of an illusion that was once a beautiful reality;an American dream. Nowadays,even down here in Louisiana it is easy to find studios that put up the front which conceals a "digital darkroom" where the real music is generated. In other words, you can walk into a legitimate looking studio,which features a large console,booths,high-dollar mikes,etc.,only to later discover the "other" room which has computers,pro-tools,cakewalk,and so on. The "other" room is where the real production equipment is.
Like it or not,the future is here!
Ordinarily I would suggest moving this to a whole separate thread/topic, but ERIC really summed it up very well,even though it is not a popular way of viewing the current trends of the recording industry.
~~W.C.~~[This message was edited by Wayne Cox on 20 February 2005 at 10:40 PM.] |
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